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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jubei View Post
    Bet on himself? All he did was sh.t himself when Boots knocked on the door.
    Fact's, as far as the closed poll goes, and that's what it appears like as far as Norman goes.
    Norman's decision not to fight Boots is a huge disappointment for boxing fans.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Corelone View Post
      Its like everything else. The value of a title is the effort a fighter puts into it. An email title is like fools gold and paying one email titleist more than another as Boots getting 3m and Norman getting 1.4m is totally unfair. In my opinion, Boots is the one stagnating playing Eddys ho games.
      If those were the actual purse numbers than it was being disrespect to Norman, but he still should've taken the fight to prove that he was the best.
      If he would've won he could've turned the tables in a rematch, and gotten the lions share at that point in time.
      I really wanted to see this fight to find out who was the best fighter in the welterweight division was.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Corelone View Post
        Two email champions, nobody bringing anything more. To me, fair is put it all on the table. 70-30 winner loser split not, my guy just gets more. That is demoralizing.
        Probably one of the reasons why they didn't take the fight. If Ennis really wanted the fight why not take a little less ? If hearn was really investing in Ennis, why not pay a little more?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hitmanjosh View Post

          Your boxing knowledge is like a junk car salesman so you may want to consider going back to school, then say if Hearn were smart he'd follow your suggestion, and how much did you gross over the last 5 years?
          Having read your posts a few times, an insult from you is a compliment. So thanks.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by tokon View Post

            Probably one of the reasons why they didn't take the fight. If Ennis really wanted the fight why not take a little less ? If hearn was really investing in Ennis, why not pay a little more?
            Boots has never seen an actual challenge that he wanted anything to do with. Almost 30 and he could have fought Bud years ago and turned it down....he fights B level guys for short term paydays so he can keep the title of "best gym fighter ever", it makes him more mysterious.

            Norman may lose to him. But for God's sake, Hearn going to act like Boots is some big draw that casuals love, and like Norman is some nobody who lucked into a belt. Norman beat a power hitter in Santillan and came out of nowhere, his profile and name are a buzz in the sport right now. Ennis beat Bud's leftover from years back Ava, and now he is the money man???

            Neither guy is a big name. Boots has cred with those on the inside of the sport, but casuals do not know him. More people are talking about Norman after his gutty win against an actual good opponent. But somehow Boots is the money train and Norman deserves half of what Boots gets?

            Just ******.
            Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 09-08-2024, 11:43 AM.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by 57Blues View Post

              He is 23 years old he is still developing, still has plenty of time, this bussiness of " take the money and run " being put out there by Chrissy means very little. Norman " trusts " himself enough to build on his record and ring experience and prove himself to himself, that is not fear nor is it ******ity or bad judgement. Lots more can go wrong inside the ropes besides a loss. How many fighters has Chrissy developed ? Keep talking Chrissy and maybe you will be looking for another pay day somewhere. Chrissy never made any mistakes taking fights that ruined him did he, he was fearless and hungry............and never doubted himself....
              The only problem with that is Norman himself said Boots isn’t a boogeyman and that he would prove it if the opportunity presented itself

              Then the opportunity presented itself and Norman turned down multiple offers

              I don’t think Norman is scared but he would’ve been better off saying something like:

              ”I think we should build the fight up so it’s bigger in the future (or next year, etc)

              That would’ve gone over much better than turning it down and then fighting on Keyshawn Davis’ undercard.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by fistandfury View Post
                If he can get through mandatories, eventually he WILL be an attractive option for a guy moving up trying to grab something at 147, like say for instance, Ryan Garcia. He either will make far more than 1.7 million, or be a punchline in boxing for the rest of his life.
                That would be perfectly fine if Norman hadn’t talked like he’s the guy to beat Boots

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
                  Norman is only 23. By the end of his career he won't be missing that 1.7m. after taxes and camp he was probably only taking home 700k anyway.
                  ​​​​​​Norman can protect the belt and wait Boots out.
                  Boots wont be at 147 in a year anyways.
                  Im pretty sure he will be able to get fights with stanionis and barrios
                  My understanding is that Norman’s career high is 200K so 700K is more than triple that.

                  Now if he’s getting that same amount for fighting on Keyshawn Davis’ undercard then fine…

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post
                    Norman beat a better and more proven fighter in Santillan than Boots ever has. Period. Maybe he felt like Hearn could pay more in order to give Boots a shot at a second title, and he knows the fight against Boots is the toughest fight at WW at the moment. Boots is not a star. He is apparently SRR in the gym, but when he stepped up to Karen and Villa he looked ok but got hit a lot, and the ghost of Avaneysan hit him a lot.

                    At this point I'd rather see Boots vs Staninois, Norman vs Barrios, or some variation of that, and the winners fight for undisputed. Boots and Norman look to both be better than the other beltholders, if Hearn was smart he would build some buzz around that kind of idea and the unification could be a major fight night.

                    But it's Hearn. He's a used car salesman.
                    If Boots is only “ok” then why not end the “hype train” for a career-high payday?

                    If Norman had said what you said about building the fight with both guys unifying first then there would be no issue

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by tokon View Post

                      Probably one of the reasons why they didn't take the fight. If Ennis really wanted the fight why not take a little less ? If hearn was really investing in Ennis, why not pay a little more?
                      My understanding is Norman turned down multiple offers and that each offer was more than the previous one.

                      If that’s true then Hearn did “pay a little more” so the next question is why didn’t Norman take the opportunity to back up what he said about proving that Boots isn’t a boogeyman?

                      Does he think fighting on Keyshawn Davis’ undercard is better for his career?

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