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  • #11
    no u are the queen

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    • #12
      if u are a king slayer but u are not fighting a king what good is that

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      • #13
        Usyk is the king,
        Aj is a hypejob that only made defences with rematchroom clauses & had the chance to undespute with Wilder in 18 but instead did a sky TV interview with Johnny Nelson where he said "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said"19 20 21"Hearn then said 2020 & they continued with the shot old men & cans defences. I blame Wilder to because never have 2 reigning belt holders in the division avoided one another for so long.
        Quack!
        Last edited by Bob; 09-02-2024, 01:26 PM.
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        • #14
          Looking forward to this one. Thing is... dubois doesn't have a sturdy chin,
          and AJ is fast, accurate and powerful. IMO AJ gets a KO mid rounds.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

            But it's not a good comparison. Watch both Joshua Ruiz fights - Dubois would not have survived either one of them. Ruiz survived (+ won one) because of an awesome chin. Dubois's chin is not good. You need to find someone similar to Dubois for a comparison

            The people who trouble AJ are those who can take his punches - see the Franklin fight too. Only one person actually outboxed him and that is Usyk. Dubois is no Usyk
            Maybe both chins aren't best though. Ddd will likely be one of hardest hitters Josh has faced

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            • #16
              Good luck 3-D, don't box with AJ, bullrush and attack that mofo.

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              • #17
                Hes a Lannister. A king slayer !

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                  Maybe both chins aren't best though. Ddd will likely be one of hardest hitters Josh has faced
                  I don't know why all of a sudden Daniel Dubois is being rated so highly 'Dubois is clearly a solid and dangerous fighter. But he is not the most proven power puncher, Anthony Joshua has ever fought'.

                  There is a possibility that Francis Ngannou hit's with more power then Daniel Dubois 'And? Ngannou is not the most proven power puncher on Anthony Joshua's resume, Wladimir Kiltschko is. There could even be a debate that Alexandre Povetkin overall was a more proven and destructive offensive fighter than Daniel Dubois'.

                  I find that many people are not really analysing this fight with a balance perspective, especially when it comes to the abilities of both fighters 'Anthony Joshua is superior to Daniel Dubois in almost all area's of boxing. There is not one area where you would match them side by side, and say? Right Dubois has a real advantage here, so this is where we have to concentrate his efforts'.

                  Stylistically Daniel Dubois is actually a fighter who historically, Anthony Joshua has fought well against 'Any fighter who is skill for skill, is not the best boxer but is determined to move forward vs Joshua with not the best movement and footwork. That type of stylistic fighter is liable to being out boxed and systematically beat down by Anthony Joshua'.

                  Anthony Joshua has fought the most top level Heavyweights of his era, compared to all of his nearest competition 'Joshua's experience level, is actually off the charts. Only Oleksandr Uysk has the similar level of experience at fighting at World and Elite level boxing'.

                  Anthony Joshua was a elite level Amateur boxer, and pretty much from his 19th professional fight 'He enter into the elite level realms of professional boxing. And at no point since then has he really dropped far from World level boxing, Jermaine Franklin and Robert Helenius are his only two fights were you could say? They were not World level fights, but they were still solid fights'.

                  It has been very difficult for many of those fighters to consistently win rounds against him, not even Andy Ruiz Junior in his first fight vs Anthony Joshua was able to win rounds consistently, the actual fight on a round by round basis was not a one sided beat down from Ruiz Junior 'Even during Joshua's worst and most catastrophic performance, his abilities show through. That is precisely why for the rematch against Ruiz Junior, Joshua was the favourite'.

                  Only really two fighters have been able to compete with Anthony Joshua in a skill for skill boxing contest 'And those fighters are Oleksandr Uysk and Wladimir Kiltschko' By the way Joshua won one of those fights by brutal knockout, and was competitive for 24 rounds vs Oleksandr Uysk'.

                  Note: Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois 'Is not a fight about Brawn vs Brute Strength. It is not about which of these fighters lands with their power first'.

                  Only one of these two fighters have been knocked out a jab? Daniel Dubois 'Anthony Joshua fought 24 rounds vs Oleksandr Uysk. Seriously this is what I mean, by people not analysing this fight from a balanced perspective'.

                  While there is still time on the clock until September 21st 'People need to put some respect on Anthony Joshua's game. This is a warning, I have told people before? I am concerned for Dubois in this fight'.

                  Daniel Dubois is heading towards a contest, against a fighter 'That potentially he may not win a single minute of this fight. For long as the fight last, Dubois may not at any point be winning the fight'.

                  And that is no disrespect or under valuing of Daniel Dubois's ability 'It is just understanding the level of Joshua's game, and the potential that if he utilizes all of his power? The type of performances he can execute'.

                  Anthony Joshua's performance and fight against Francis Nagannou is underrated preparation for Daniel Dubois 'You see Joshua critic's are hanging on to the narratives and negative stereotypes such as Joshua being afraid of Heavyweight fighters'.

                  After Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury, the Heavyweight Division needed a Heavyweight fighter to step up and stop the invasion of Francis Ngannou 'No Heavyweight fighter in the World that enthusiastic in stepping up and defending the sport against the Ngannou.

                  Lets all be real and honest, there was much talk 'But no Heavyweight fighters, were stepping up to challenge Francis Ngannou. Tyson Fury did not greatly protest his performance, he did not call for the rematch, Deontay Wilder did not step to Francis Ngannou and neither did Oleksandr Uysk'.

                  So it was left to Anthony Joshua step up, and confront the most perceived and destructive fighter in all of combat sports 'And this aura was at its absolute peak after Francis Ngannou's performance vs Tyson Fury'.

                  To conclude: Anthony Joshua on March 8th 2024, stepped up and confronted Francis Ngannou. Francis Ngannou was being built up as being invulnerable to physical attacks, and having mass destructive power within his punches. Anthony Joshua beat Francis Ngannou at his own game, Joshua confronted Ngannou head on in the area of his game were he is most effective and destructive. Anthony Joshua completely, obliterated and decimated Ngannou in this area.

                  Anthony Joshua on March 8th 2024, confront potential peril and doom head on 'The fight was a test of a fighters courage. Joshua prevailed, in a manner which his critics believed was not possible'.

                  There is still time on the clock, for all of Anthony Joshua's critics to check themselves 'Because if you do not check yourselves, come September 21st many people will be ether making excuses or a major part of their involvement in the boxing community will disintegrate'.

                  Anthony Joshua's critics put a lot of effort into trying their best to devalue, and undermine Joshua game and resume etc.



                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-03-2024, 12:18 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                    I don't know why all of a sudden Daniel Dubois is being rated so highly 'Dubois is clearly a solid and dangerous fighter. But he is not the most proven power puncher, Anthony Joshua has ever fought'.

                    There is a possibility that Francis Ngannou hit's with more power then Daniel Dubois 'And? Ngannou is not the most proven power puncher on Anthony Joshua's resume, Wladimir Kiltschko is. There could even be a debate that Alexandre Povetkin overall was a more proven and destructive offensive fighter than Daniel Dubois'.

                    I find that many people are not really analysing this fight with a balance perspective, especially when it comes to the abilities of both fighters 'Anthony Joshua is superior to Daniel Dubois in almost all area's of boxing. There is not one area where you would match them side by side, and say? Right Dubois has a real advantage here, so this is where we have to concentrate his efforts'.

                    Stylistically Daniel Dubois is actually a fighter who historically, Anthony Joshua has fought well against 'Any fighter who is skill for skill, is not the best boxer but is determined to move forward vs Joshua with not the best movement and footwork. That type of stylistic fighter is liable to being out boxed and systematically beat down by Anthony Joshua'.

                    Anthony Joshua has fought the most top level Heavyweights of his era, compared to all of his nearest competition 'Joshua's experience level, is actually off the charts. Only Oleksandr Uysk has the similar level of experience at fighting at World and Elite level boxing'.

                    Anthony Joshua was a elite level Amateur boxer, and pretty much from his 19th professional fight 'He enter into the elite level realms of professional boxing. And at no point since then has he really dropped far from World level boxing, Jermaine Franklin and Robert Helenius are his only two fights were you could say? They were not World level fights, but they were still solid fights'.

                    It has been very difficult for many of those fighters to consistently win rounds against him, not even Andy Ruiz Junior in his first fight vs Anthony Joshua was able to win rounds consistently, the actual fight on a round by round basis was not a one sided beat down from Ruiz Junior 'Even during Joshua's worst and most catastrophic performance, his abilities show through. That is precisely why for the rematch against Ruiz Junior, Joshua was the favourite'.

                    Only really two fighters have been able to compete with Anthony Joshua in a skill for skill boxing contest 'And those fighters are Oleksandr Uysk and Wladimir Kiltschko' By the way Joshua won one of those fights by brutal knockout, and was competitive for 24 rounds vs Oleksandr Uysk'.

                    Note: Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois 'Is not a fight about Brawn vs Brute Strength. It is not about which of these fighters lands with their power first'.

                    Only one of these two fighters have been knocked out a jab? Daniel Dubois 'Anthony Joshua fought 24 rounds vs Oleksandr Uysk. Seriously this is what I mean, by people not analysing this fight from a balanced perspective'.

                    While there is still time on the clock until September 21st 'People need to put some respect on Anthony Joshua's game. This is a warning, I have told people before? I am concerned for Dubois in this fight'.

                    Daniel Dubois is heading towards a contest, against a fighter 'That potentially he may not win a single minute of this fight. For long as the fight last, Dubois may not at any point be winning the fight'.

                    And that is no disrespect or under valuing of Daniel Dubois's ability 'It is just understanding the level of Joshua's game, and the potential that if he utilizes all of his power? The type of performances he can execute'.

                    Anthony Joshua's performance and fight against Francis Nagannou is underrated preparation for Daniel Dubois 'You see Joshua critic's are hanging on to the narratives and negative stereotypes such as Joshua being afraid of Heavyweight fighters'.

                    After Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury, the Heavyweight Division needed a Heavyweight fighter to step up and stop the invasion of Francis Ngannou 'No Heavyweight fighter in the World that enthusiastic in stepping up and defending the sport against the Ngannou.

                    Lets all be real and honest, there was much talk 'But no Heavyweight fighters, were stepping up to challenge Francis Ngannou. Tyson Fury did not greatly protest his performance, he did not call for the rematch, Deontay Wilder did not step to Francis Ngannou and neither did Oleksandr Uysk'.

                    So it was left to Anthony Joshua step up, and confront the most perceived and destructive fighter in all of combat sports 'And this aura was at its absolute peak after Francis Ngannou's performance vs Tyson Fury'.

                    To conclude: Anthony Joshua on March 8th 2024, stepped up and confronted Francis Ngannou. Francis Ngannou was being built up as being invulnerable to physical attacks, and having mass destructive power within his punches. Anthony Joshua beat Francis Ngannou at his own game, Joshua confronted Ngannou head on in the area of his game were he is most effective and destructive. Anthony Joshua completely, obliterated and decimated Ngannou in this area.

                    Anthony Joshua on March 8th 2024, confront potential peril and doom head on 'The fight was a test of a fighters courage. Joshua prevailed, in a manner which his critics believed was not possible'.

                    There is still time on the clock, for all of Anthony Joshua's critics to check themselves 'Because if you do not check yourselves, come September 21st many people will be ether making excuses or a major part of their involvement in the boxing community will disintegrate'.

                    Anthony Joshua's critics put a lot of effort into trying their best to devalue, and undermine Joshua game and resume etc.


                    I do think Josh wins, but I'm just really saying it's a good fight. I'm cheerleading ddda bit, as I think many people writing him off.
                    Like you say there's more reason to pick Josh to win. But some fighters can improve and some can go backwards.
                    But I think wlad was bit too old, and maybe not as sturdy as ddd. I don't see wlad taking those punches from flip
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-06-2024, 04:30 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                      Maybe both chins aren't best though. Ddd will likely be one of hardest hitters Josh has faced
                      That's true but AJ has had a pretty useless chin in every fight he has gone into. Most people just fail to land any big shots on him. Dubois is not a gifted boxer. He's very straightforward. I just think AJ will be the one landing hard shots on him

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