Pacmans Weight

[m00ks]

Pedro Fernandez of Ringtalk.com thinks Pacman won the fight and Larry Merchant thinks its a draw. I think almost all Pacfans were anticipating a knockdown at least. So when that didn't happen, automatically they accepted the defeat. Without the dramatic bloody cut over the eye, I think the score would have been closer and questionable.

Pedro Fernandez wants you to click on his link and read his bull**** article. And Merchant loves Manny thats why he was generous. I don't see how Manny would have gotten that one...even in a rematch. There IS a blueprint to beat him and **** did Morales excecuted.

[SacTown1]

His 4th fight, but Barrera beat him at the weight and Marco is the weaker of all three fighters. Marco said prior to the fight that he was out of his league fighting at 130 pounds since his natural weight is 126. People thought Morales was going to kill Barrera, I was one of the few people to pick Barrera to win that fight because I knew Erik was going to take lightly, Marco was going to steup it up and Erik would beef up to over power him. Styles make fights and Erik's style and body dimensions are too tough for Pacquiao to overcome.

Thanx for re-iterating all of my points from the past 2 months, don't join any debate teams my brother, you're preaching to the choir

[lapulapu]

Pedro Fernandez wants you to click on his link and read his bull**** article. And Merchant loves Manny thats why he was generous. I don't see how Manny would have gotten that one...even in a rematch. There IS a blueprint to beat him and **** did Morales excecuted.

What do mean ... even in a rematch? You think Morales is now invincible. That's more bull**** than Pedro's write up.

If Barerra has the same mentality, he wouldn't got out of the grave. I believe Marco wasn't washed up when he got beat up by Pac. And I was very happy when he shot down the talkative Ayala. I'd say Pacman can do the same thing.

[m00ks]

What do mean ... even in a rematch? You think Morales is now invincible. That's more bull**** than Pedro's write up.

If Barerra has the same mentality, he wouldn't got out of the grave. I believe Marco wasn't washed up when he got beat up by Pac. And I was very happy when he shot down the talkative Ayala. I'd say Pacman can do the same thing.

I don't have to argue with you cuz it's pointless. I had to realize for myself. Watch the fight again but this time, focus on Morales' defense and counters. He was ready for EVERYTHING Manny P had. The punch swarms had nothing on him.

In a rematch, Pac would probably train harder but come in with the same gameplan. And Morales just has to execute the same performance. I don't see anything in Pac's curent arsenal that would allow him to beat a boxing Erik.

[lapulapu]

I don't have to argue with you cuz it's pointless. I had to realize for myself. Watch the fight again but this time, focus on Morales' defense and counters. He was ready for EVERYTHING Manny P had. The punch swarms had nothing on him.

In a rematch, Pac would probably train harder but come in with the same gameplan. And Morales just has to execute the same performance. I don't see anything in Pac's curent arsenal that would allow him to beat a boxing Erik.

Agree with you that Erik made Pac looked bad in that fight. But speculation about the next fight is never the same thing as the real thing that happens during a fight.

I think Pacquiao has what it takes to win the rematch. Morales showed us what we expected him to show and a little bit more. Pacquiao didn't show anything that we expected, even a little bit. Even the one dimentional stroke was missing.

So there's still a lot of potential that Manny can exploit for the rematch. But I love to see him go back to 126 for Marquez and if possible fight MAB at 126 too.

[m00ks]

Agree with you that Erik made Pac looked bad in that fight. But speculation about the next fight is never the same thing as the real thing that happens during a fight.

I think Pacquiao has what it takes to win the rematch. Morales showed us what we expected him to show and a little bit more. Pacquiao didn't show anything that we expected, even a little bit. Even the one dimentional stroke was missing.

So there's still a lot of potential that Manny can exploit for the rematch. But I love to see him go back to 126 for Marquez and if possible fight MAB at 126 too.

If Manny would beat Morales, it wouldn't be in an IMMEDIATE rematch. So if the rematch happens anytime soon (**** I hope not), Manny would get his ass handed back to him. And if not, Morales ain't staying at 130. He's most likely moving up.

[sane0t0]

Pacquiao was not affected by the weight. He said the weight was fine and it is around his natural weight. Obviously as he moves up his speed with slow down, but he is still quicker then any other fighter at 130. Pac still had his power. His power was very visible when he would rush Morales and Erik would back up almost into the ropes. Erik was hurt pretty bad to the body in the first round, I'm not sure why Pacquiao did not stay on the body. Pac got tired because he did not pace himself, he threw a lot of power punches in the early rounds. Morales on the other hand was pacing himself by picking his spots.

I totally agree with this. The left body shot that landed on Morales as he was against the ropes in the first, hurt Morales big time! It made him retreat all the way back to another set of ropes in the ring. I was up on my feet at the end of that round saying "Manny just needs to stick to his game plan." Before the fight, I kept thinking "manny needs to stick to the body attack in the early rounds to have a chance for a KO in the later rounds, when he can go head-hunting. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. I think that Manny got tired in the early rounds and needed to slow down (which he did), but before catching his breath to do battle again, he received the cut. He showed a lot of heart. I cannot believe someone can say he was outclassed by Morales when he had blood seeping into his right eye from before the halfway point of the fight. I mean if Morales couldn't take Manny out with a cut like that, this just proves Manny's a World-class warrior...

Morales displayed great boxing, I must admit I was impressed. I have respect for him now, doesn't mean I have to like him.

[abdiel2k3]

The more I watch the fight, the less close it becomes. Morales won and teh fight wasn't that close. Manny P just kept attacking that's why it looked close. Skillswise, my boy got outclassed.

i think someone owes someone an apology
but i wont rub it in man
just i was tryin to tell ya
it really wasnt close

[MetalVomit]

I think Morales beat him and there isn`t any excuses. Face it, live with it and learn to love it. Erik Morales is a beater fighter than Pac man!

So is Barrera and JMM. I hope Pac goes for the rematch with Marco.

[Floydmayweather]

Styles make fights and Morales style well always be tough for Pac to win. However, if pac to say he cant beat Morales in a rematch i think it not true. I heard some people say if Morales used Reyes gloves he would have koed many, i could see it going the other way as well. Also things like the cut and Morales hands could have come into play. Thats no excuse but Pac deserves another shot and i bet he will get it.