Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: The Crawford-Madrimov bill, Tank-Shakur, Canelo and the greatness of Barney Ross

[wrecksracer]

So you’re privy to the details of the negotiations or you just know what you’ve read? You were part of the negotiations? Lol

According to Bivol, he was offered the same deal. No raise for beating him in the last fight. Canelo's side didn't deny it. It was one of the main bones of contention. Believe what you want. It sure didn't look like Canelo wanted the fight. He could have easily made it happen. You know that, right?

[Oregonian]

Why is it so hard to understand that Canelo absolutely wants the Bivol rematch but only at 175. !? It’s totally obvious to anyone but the
most obdurate antifans that Canelo would receive absolutely no credit if he agreed to fight Bivol at 168 like Bivol wanted,foh,people obsessed with envy,hate and jealousy.

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Bivol beat Canelo. It wasn’t a close fight at all. There is no demand from boxing fans except Canelo and his loyalists.
Guerrero, Marquez, Mosley, Hatton and PAC all wanted rematches with Floyd. They all absolutely wanted the rematches and it bc was totally obvious to anyone but the most obdurate antifans that they all had.

As for the credit you allude to at 168, it was pretty obvious Canelo did not want to risk the 4 titles he’s been holding hostage for two years now fighting garbage after garbage fights. Bivol was pretty clear that the rematch had to happen at 168 with all the belts on the line, why didn’t Canelo accept it? Told have been advantageous for him because Bivol would be dropping 7 Ibs of weight.

Instead of going the usual route we’ve seen here of personifying your response by attacking me, please answer that question - why didn’t Canelo accept the rematch at 168?

[Poopdick]

I hate Canelo and I hate all the guys like that. Fook the Mayweather plan. I am a hater, and I hate hard

[Poopdick]

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Bivol beat Canelo. It wasn’t a close fight at all. There is no demand from boxing fans except Canelo and his loyalists.
Guerrero, Marquez, Mosley, Hatton and PAC all wanted rematches with Floyd. They all absolutely wanted the rematches and it bc was totally obvious to anyone but the most obdurate antifans that they all had.

As for the credit you allude to at 168, it was pretty obvious Canelo did not want to risk the 4 titles he’s been holding hostage for two years now fighting garbage after garbage fights. Bivol was pretty clear that the rematch had to happen at 168 with all the belts on the line, why didn’t Canelo accept it? Told have been advantageous for him because Bivol would be dropping 7 Ibs of weight.

Instead of going the usual route we’ve seen here of personifying your response by attacking me, please answer that question - why didn’t Canelo accept the rematch at 168?

because Bivol washes Canelo at 168 just like he did at 175. Canelo is overrated. Bivol underrated really. Bivol is a true top p4p guy. that is why. I'll answer for this guy

[ShoulderRoll]

People actively involved in the sport ans making a living at it, like Edwards, are going to see the fans in a different light.

Boxing has always been a dirty and corrupt sport, one of the worst in terms of fairness and payoffs and bad judges.....cherry picking fighters, all talk no smoke fighters......guided careers and protected fighters. Etc.

That said, it can create some beautiful moments.

The fans are the customers. And the customer is always right…except not in boxing.

[Slip jab]

I m addressing Bresdmans response that boxing fans are the worst and using Spence’s loss as an example I don’t think they turned on him. In the years leading up to the Crawford fight you gotta realize all the hate hate and bashing was generated towards Bud from PBC and their fanboys. And that win was satisfying because we got see them all eat their own words. Maybe they turned on Spence but however not us Bud fans. We always knew what the outcome would be.

[BrankoB]

Why is it so hard to understand that Canelo absolutely wants the Bivol rematch but only at 175. !? It’s totally obvious to anyone but the
most obdurate antifans that Canelo would receive absolutely no credit if he agreed to fight Bivol at 168 like Bivol wanted,foh,people obsessed with envy,hate and jealousy.

I am not a Canelo fan or a Canelo hater. Given that he calls the shots in terms of who he wants to fight and how much he wants to pay them, it is obvious that he wants no part of Bivol at any weight. The fight was not competitive regardless of the scorecards. Canelo knows he cannot beat Bivol and does not want another embarassing loss on his record. By the way, I am not a Bivol fan either. I am just an intersted observer.

[BrankoB]

Really good pick for Valenzuela to beat Cruz. Bad pick for Andersen to win - he got destroyed by Bakole.

[Oregonian]

because Bivol washes Canelo at 168 just like he did at 175. Canelo is overrated. Bivol underrated really. Bivol is a true top p4p guy. that is why. I'll answer for this guy

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Thank you.
I forgot to add one thing - why didn’t Canelo give Lara a rematch?

[The D3vil]

Nailed the Crawford pick, almost to the letter, but Bread was wayyyy off on Jared Anderson

I usually agree with Bread, but I gotta disagree with him on fans.

I get a lot of boxing fans are disrespectful, but that's only because boxing fans are more disrespected than any other fans.

I just had to stay up to 1AM AGAIN to watch the main event of a boxing match.

Show me another sport that does that to it's fanbase?

Plus, most of the halfway decent fights are behind a paywall.

What main****** sports in America do that?

Boxing is the most obviously corrupt in it's judging, drug testing, and championships