Valuev calls Haye "an idiot more "

[MANGLER]

**** Haye. I want him KO'd, but not til his next fight. Val needs to get his belt taken and go away first.

[Heru]

Valuev goes the distance and possibly loses a decision to a shot to bits Evander Holyfield weighing 211 !!!!!

Says to me Valuev is getting KTFO , against a young in prime David Haye weighing 225 !!!!!!

Valuev was never hurt though so KTFO is a stretch.

Holyfield kept Valuev off balance giving him non stop lateral movement. I don't think a young prime Haye has the stamina or discipline to ever do something like that. Haye better conserve his energy and not try to force a KO or he will be getting stopped like what Valuev did to Barrett.

[Heru]

**** Haye. I want him KO'd, but not til his next fight. Val needs to get his belt taken and go away first.

Yeah, cuz DK would never let the Klits unify; especially without options to their next fight (something they don't give).

[MANGLER]

Yeah, cuz DK would never let the Klits unify; especially without options to their next fight (something they don't give).

I know Tua is old, but I think if Haye takes the WBA belt from Val, fat boy can KO him for it. K bros ain't ever gonna fight, so they runnin outta names for they body count. I hope Haye wins then fights Tua, but if he mans up to face 1 of the K bros, it's gravy.

[Heru]

I know Tua is old, but I think if Haye takes the WBA belt from Val, fat boy can KO him for it. K bros ain't ever gonna fight, so they runnin outta names for they body count. I hope Haye wins then fights Tua, but if he mans up to face 1 of the K bros, it's gravy.

I wasn't even thinking about Tua, but I would pick him and at least 5 others to take out Haye. He's probably the second fastest heavyweight and duke has a lot of power, but his chin and stamina leave him vulnerable as fuck.

I don't think Tua would get the next shot at Haye, hopefully he does though.

[Mighty_Windir]

Let's be serious for one second.

We all know Valuev holded back in his fight with Evander, he looked like he didn't wanted to harm the guy, yes he lost that fight but in reality he never fought him like he always does.

Look at his 2 wars with Ruiz and tell me that's the same Valuev that fought Evander.

[thewinfella]

Valuev was never hurt though so KTFO is a stretch.

Holyfield kept Valuev off balance giving him non stop lateral movement. I don't think a young prime Haye has the stamina or discipline to ever do something like that. Haye better conserve his energy and not try to force a KO or he will be getting stopped like what Valuev did to Barrett.

Ok lets compare Haye now to Holy who fought Valuev .

Superior speed & power goes to Haye , endurance at this point would have to go to Haye , head movement & chin go to Holy (im talking strictly volume of head movement as at this point i beleive Holy is easier to hit than Haye), strength in the clinch Haye (even though both Holy & Haye are at a distinctive dis advantage against Valuev here) .

Holyfield is now considered a light punching HW , and in his prime was known as a volume puncher not a power puncher , Haye is a power puncher who does box too , Valuev is a large punch bag who is going to get hurt !!!!!