Some Extremely Interesting Larry Holmes Comments

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  • JB16
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    Some Extremely Interesting Larry Holmes Comments

    'Like me or loathe me-I'm going to give it to you straight. Tyson, Holyfield-you wound't have heard of them if they had fought back in the seventies. Smokin Joe Frazier would have bombed Tyson out. So would have Bonavena, Lyle, Shavers, Norton, and Quarry. Those were big, strong punching suckers. Even Mac Foster and Ernie Terrell would have beat them. Ali would have ambushed him as Tyson charged foward. Foreman? After he hit Tyson, Little Mikey would have been ready for socail Security.

    There are people who tell me I'm dead wrong about this. But I'm a student of boxing and can tell you that while Tyson is a good fighter for today, he's not one of the great fighters of all time. Not even close. He can't take a punch. Every time Tyson gets knocked down, he dosen't get up. Thats when you prove yourself as a great fighter.


    Holyfield has a lot of courage, but as a heavyweight he'd have been a sparring parther back when Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Shavers and Holmes were working. He simply gets hit to much. And while he can get away with it in todays Heavyweight scene, he'd have been dead meat back in my time. Out of his league. Ali would have slapped him silly with the jab. It would have been a cakewalk. Foreman who went the distance with him as a old man, would have creamed him back then.

    At least Holyfield has a warrior's heart. It's more than I can say for Lennox Lewis. He's a joke-a big, athletic guy who's strictly a front runner. Put him against a fighter who stands up to him-like say Ray Mercer did- and Lewis is exposed as a man who dosen't like a real fight. Lennox Lewis is just a Heavyweight wanna-be.

    Hell, he stopped by to see me in Easton once and, when I asked him why he wound't fight me, he said: ''I can't give you a fight. You got too good a jab. Teach me the jab''

    ''I don't wanna teach you'' I told him. ''I wanna fight you'' ''Nah'' he said ''I don't want to mess with that jab''

    If the roles had been reversed....if I were the young kid and he were the old champ challenging me, i'd have told him ''Bring me the money and I'II kick your ass''

    One guy who had some talent was Rid**** Bowe. He punched good and had the moves. But Bowe lacked the staying power. Soon as he won the title, he ate himself into a fatman, and fight by fight he seemed to lose his passion for the game. By the time Andrew Golota got in there with him, Bowe was a shell of himself. It takes a whole lot to keep it together, to have the longevity that fighters from my era-Ali, Frazier, Foreman, myself-had.

    ''Larry Holmes''
    Last edited by JB16; 10-14-2009, 09:48 PM.
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    #2
    That's his opinion.

    Maybe we can get 4 other fighters opinion and 5 Journalist to sum it up.


    Tyson beats Frazier but loses to Ali IMO.

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    • Verstyle
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      I like Larry, he tells it like HE sees it.

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        Originally posted by JB16
        'Like me or loathe me-I'm going to give it to you straight. Tyson, Holyfield-you wound't have heard of them if they had fought back in the seventies. Smokin Joe Frazier would have bombed Tyson out. So would have Bonavena, Lyle, Shavers, Norton, and Quarry. Those were big, strong punching suckers. Even Mac Foster and Ernie Terrell would have beat them. Ali would have ambushed him as Tyson charged foward. Foreman? After he hit Tyson, Little Mikey would have been ready for socail Security.
        ''Larry Holmes''

        Sounds like a soar excuse of a beaten man. Didn't Tyson whoop his ass?

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        • Fulcrum29
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          Originally posted by Nautilus
          Sounds like a soar excuse of a beaten man. Didn't Tyson whoop his ass?
          Holmes fought Tyson AND Ali so I think he knows what he's talking about. And he's probably right. Especially about the fact that Holyfield and Lewis would get eaten alive by any 70 heavyweight. As for Tyson, most likely smokin' Joe would smoke him out but he stands a better (at least puncher's chance) while Holyfield and Lewis don't.

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          • Eric Holder
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            gotta respect Larry for giving his honest opinion

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            • Chase8400
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              That was some of the biggest loads of BS i've ever read. He's just pissed because prime Tyson annihilated him. He was never even in the fight and it didn't matter if he was old or not. His style would never have stacked up to prime Tyson's and he knows it. That's why he's trying to criticize Mike now.

              I would have loved to see him fight Lennox at his best too. He would have been blasted out with the jab-right hand. Lennox spared his life by not fighting a washed up shell of a guy who wouldn't stand a chance even at his best.

              Another tale-tale sign that he's out of his mind is him criticizing Tyson when he got straight punked by him.

              What a douche and a fraud. Much like fulcrum69.
              Last edited by Chase8400; 10-14-2009, 10:50 PM. Reason: misread something

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              • Heru
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                Holmes sound like a bitter hater, but from what I've read from him before, it's from the heart. I agree for the most part, except for the exaggerations.

                Tyson has good chin and heart, but would have gotten beaten by Ali and Frazier-Tyson would be a tossup. The edge going to Joe because of his superior chin, stamina, and output.

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                • Fulcrum29
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chase8400
                  That was some of the biggest loads of BS i've ever read. He's just pissed because prime Tyson annihilated him. He was never even in the fight and it didn't matter if he was old or not. His style would never have stacked up to prime Tyson's and he knows it. That's why he's trying to criticize Mike now.

                  I would have loved to see him fight Lennox at his best too. He would have been blasted out with the jab-right hand. Lennox spared his life by not fighting a washed up shell of a guy who wouldn't stand a chance even at his best.

                  Another tale-tale sign that he's out of his mind is saying Foreman went the distance with Tyson when they never fought. What a douche and a fraud.
                  He may be a douche but at least he's a literate one. You're an ILLITERATE douche. Learn to read ****, he said Foreman went the distance with HOLYFIELD not Tyson you damn 'tard.

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                  • Chase8400
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fulcrum29
                    He may be a douche but at least he's a literate one. You're an ILLITERATE douche. Learn to read ****, he said Foreman went the distance with HOLYFIELD not Tyson you damn 'tard.
                    Good acknowledgement. I did misread that. However, does that make me a ****? Illiterate? Or, a douche myself? One would have to be pretty f.ucking ****** to take one look at anything I write and mistake me for someone who is anything in the same world of illiteracy.

                    In my opinion, you took that a little personal, probably due to my somewhat aggresive comment in the other thread about Vitali and the political mess he was in. Shame on me for telling you to chill.

                    Piece of advice, don't take this so seriously. I would literally make you **** yourself if you ever came face to face with me and there is no point in getting so up tight over the internet when you can't back up those words.

                    I would make you my *****.

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