T-Bud VS Welterweight Kings Sugar Ray Robinson & SRL

[MusoMeanderings]

Bud ain't worthy to carry their towels. FOH.

The absence of wolves should not be the reason to praise jackals.

[MusoMeanderings]

Where was that energy when Spence ran through Ugas and Mickey Garcia prior to the Crawford fight?

Garcia was jumping up in weight and Ugas staggered him. Not exactly like beating some monsters, is it?

[MusoMeanderings]

he is the best P4P boxer as of today and has earned the right to be compared to other past ATGS.

You don't need to earn the right to be compared to somebody, it is an act of free will.

But comparing Bud to SRL is laughable. SRL was tough as nails and throwed wicked combos even in the 15th round. I can't even start to imagine Bud doing that.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Terrence Crawford would struggle against any past great fighters 'Who fought during the era's of the same day weigh in rule'.

There is quite simply, zero evidence that Terrence Crawford could fight at Welter Weight and maintain his form 'While adhering to the same day weigh in rule'.

Once again, people are debating mythical hypothetic match ups 'But they are not really acknowledging all the factors in those match ups'.

If Crawford is going to fight, Sugar Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard 'Then during what era of boxing is the fight taking place, and under what rules? You see guys, when you really analyse the sport in-depth, you will the understand that match ups are not so straight forward'.

I see certain folk mentioning Floyd Mayweather Junior in this thread 'And insinuating that Crawford has a better prospect of beating Sugar Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard'. The reality is that? Floyd Mayweather Junior is one of the very few modern day fighters, who would have the proven ability to travel back in time and compete in past era's.

Floyd Mayweather Junior did not extensively weight drain himself, and his training methodologies that he used were predominately old school techniques.

Note: To be really honest, many of these modern day lower class fighters 'Have shown zero evidence, that they would have the abilities to fight in past boxing era's especially under the same day weigh in rule'.

Terrence Crawford is a great fighter within this modern era of boxing 'But when people start matching him up against fighters such as Sugar Ray Robinson, and Ray Leonard. In some ways we are effectively speaking about a different type and generation of fighter'.

We are talking about a generation and era of fighters, who fought for 15 rounds 'Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 career fights in total'. Terrence Crawford has had 40 fights.

I don't think people understand, all of you guys are matching these fighters against Barbarians 'Without also really thinking about, the environment and rules those past fights competed in'.

To conclude: When it comes to mythical hypothetic match ups, I have been very adamant on this topic in the past. There are not many modern days fighters, that have shown the ability that they could travel back in time and compete with those fighters under the same fight conditions.

Only fighters such as Floyd Mayweather Junior, Bernard Hopkins, Carl Froch, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis and there are more 'Those are the type of fighters, that in my opinion had the ability to compete in all boxing era's. Because although they were more modern day fighters, their training methodologies which they used were based heavily on old school techniques.

Great as a fighter that Terrence Crawford is, a big part of his game throughout his career 'Has been weight draining himself, so he can fight below his more natural fighting weight'.

During the boxing era's of Sugar Ray Robinson 'Crawford is going to really struggle to fight at Welter Weight, and produce the same form that he has in this modern era'.

But in comparison, Old school fighters from past boxing era's 'If they where to travel into the future, and compete in this modern era of boxing. Their form and game is ether going to improve dramatically or maintain at the very least'.

Terrence Crawford is a great fighter 'One of the greatest fighters of his generation'. People can match him against fighters from the modern boxing era's 'But when we start going way back into boxing history, and talking about a entirely different generation of fighters. The game and competition alters dramatically, in my opinion? To a extent that many of these modern day fighters would find extremely difficult to navigated and complete in' etc.

[SouthpawRight]

I disagree.

Floyd & Bud are both 5'8"

Robinson was 5'11' & Leonard 5'10"

Both of them both were much bigger guys than Floyd & Bud with equal or greater speed, quickness, athleticism & greater power.

Robinson & Leonard beat both of them.

weight classes

T-Bud a buff guy who walks around at 180

Not Floyd who was 148 on fight night or manny who would arrive as 150

SRR was fight day weigh in and likely lighter than T-Bud

[The D3vil]

weight classes

T-Bud a buff guy who walks around at 180

Not Floyd who was 148 on fight night or manny who would arrive as 150

SRR was fight day weigh in and likely lighter than T-Bud

Robinson was beating Joey Maxim at 175lbs for his title when he passed out from heat exhaustion right before the end of the fight.

Bud has never fought above 154.

[Roadblock]

Get that bull**** excuse out of here, bruh. Where was that energy when Spence ran through Ugas and Mickey Garcia prior to the Crawford fight? Crawford made a name for himself in this era, he’s not TBE, he’s not a top 5 ATG like he and his team desperately want people to believe after they became 2x undisputed, but he is the best P4P boxer as of today and has earned the right to be compared to other past ATGS.

Spence was not right, nobody is saying he would have won, he was a bag and as today showed TC is not the superman people thought from Spence, I knew it during and after that Bud looked greater than he really is because Spence was not right he had no resistance to anything even jabs hurt him.

[hogey]

Crawford is a fantastic fighter a credit to boxing and definitely among the very best of his era, but he gets absolutely leathered against ATG Welterweights like Leonard and Robinson. They both had even faster hands better movement, more strength and massive power at that weight. I think he also gets battered and brutally stopped by a peak Duran in a fairly one sided fight. Worst of all for him would be Hearns who would almost decapitate him within a couple of rounds.

[The plunger man]

Crawford would not go past 6 rounds with Leonard or Robinson , what we saw last night was a fighter who struggled to beat a world champion who had no more than 10 pro fights , had no crediible name on his resume as well and yet just edging him with a razor thin decision he now all of a sudden can beat the two beat welterweights who ever lived.
Duran would have devoured him and ripped him apart at 154 as Crawford 100% don’t have the power to keep him off him , Mcallum ,and Hearns would have also destroyed him.
The cotto pacquaio would cause bud nightmares as well due to his relentless pressure and movement.

These idiots on here who think Crawford beats both sugar rays are now in the same bracket as a Chris mannix in terms of boxing knowledge and IQ.
I really thought Crawford was something special when he boxed spence and what I saw last night put those ideas back in a locked box and buried in my back garden.
Very dissatisfied with the fight last night and how crawford performed.
The fighters of the 80’s and before had weigh ins on the morning of the fight so Crawford would either not get world title fights or have to make weight it’s that simple.
Ask yourself one question could you imagine Crawford in the ring with Marvellous Marvin Hagler lol

[The plunger man]

weight classes

T-Bud a buff guy who walks around at 180

Not Floyd who was 148 on fight night or manny who would arrive as 150

SRR was fight day weigh in and likely lighter than T-Bud

that’s bollocks lol……Crawford would not be fighting for the those belts and would not make the weight if that’s the case and would have to fight a Michael spinks for his light heavyweight title lol and that would be literally manslaughter.
if the same rules applied today as they did in 80’s and before then Crawford would not be walking around at 180 as he would not have the leniency of knowing he has 24 hours to rehydrate.
So he would need to be checking his weight all year round and it’s only because he has the luxury of the best supplements and nutritionists if he does walk around at weight and still come down the 154s and 147
crawford is now 37 which means his body has now filled out more because the passage of time and likes of Leonard and Robinson were stepping in the ring with natural 175 world champions even before that age , Crawford is doing it at 154 lol
Wake up ffs