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  • #11
    1.In the free world my opinion about what someone does with their own body that isn’t harmful to me is their own business.
    2. Chisora and Joyce get paid a lot of money as do football players and so on. Nurses and factory workers all suffer injuries throughout their lives that’s the risks of the jobs they take.

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    • #12
      Grown folks know what they are getting themselves into.
      Whether it's flipping burgers or throwing an egg, no one goes into something with their eyes closed.

      When losing can get a guy six figures, how can anyone feel sorry ?
      I definitely won't shed tears should any athlete go broke.
      We all know they had the time of their lives spending that shlt.
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      • #13
        Originally posted by JeBron Lamez View Post
        Not getting hit is within the rules, and there is huge potential for increased reward if one can master the art of it... but yeah, someone's getting hit.

        It almost sounds as if Tris Dixon is envisaging measures that would allow some kind of panel to retire a licensed & medically cleared fighter if, having watched his fights, the panel opines that said fighter has sustained too much damage.​
        Not "almost" that's exactly what he's doing.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by 1Eriugenus View Post
          There is quite a strong ethical argument for banning boxing. There are various arguments against, including that criminalising boxing would drive it underground & cause more violent fights with fewer safeguards & less medical support. In the end, however, the main argument against banning boxing is simply that, in a free society, people have to be left to make their own mistakes. If you follow that argument then you can't turn around & say 'but not Chisora'. I wish Chisora would stop, I wish Joyce would stop, but it isn't my call to make. IF you think I should be allowed to stop Chisora or Joyce boxing, because it is so obviously detrimental to them, then TBH you have accepted the argument that boxing should be banned since ultimately it is physically & mentally detrimental to everyone.
          There could be a "strong ethical argument" against a lot of things that cause irreversible damage to one's life. Smoking unfiltered weed or cigarettes several times a day. Drinking. Betting your mortgage payment and your kid's college fund away. Chemically castrating children in the name of "health care." Roll racing 2k horsepower cars on public roads and posting it on Youtube for a profit. Staying out in the sun too long. I guess we'd need to ban American football too. Again, no one is forcing anyone to get in a ring. If a doctor or doctors clear a guy like Chisora to continue to get in a ring and HE CHOOSES TO there's really not much else to talk about. It's not society's problem if he's slurring his words and eating pea soup when he's 60 no more than it's your problem if I get diabetes and I'm obese and drop dead at 50 because I never took care of myself my whole life. In the grand scheme of things driving up the cost of my insurance and healthcare, a few boxers who got CTE because they followed their dream and chosen profession is probably at the bottom of the list. I'm of the belief that someone should step in when YOUR behavior starts to or can affect OTHERS in a negative way. LIke smoking in a public place or speeding or driving drunk on a public road. And boxing is not physically and mentally detrimental to everyone. Only potentially to those who CHOOSE to participate. And in that respect it's no different from countless other things out there. Maybe just a little more obvious because people are getting punched in the head and that's obviously bad, even to all the fat slobs sitting home slowly killing themselves on the couch watching.
          Last edited by sidefx996; 07-27-2024, 08:47 AM.

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