Comments Thread For: Zhilei Zhang: 'Anthony Joshua will never fight me'

[pollywog]

AJ stays hit once he's hit. he doesn't recover. When geriatric vlad knocked him, he stayed rocked for 6 rounds. Same thing happened with Ruiz.



a bum like Helenius was putting hands on him.

Big Bob should be in the Olympics as a diver.

[P4Pdunny]

Came to this thread expecting mature boxing convo, how wrong was I

[Blackstarr]

Zhang just doesn’t throw enough punches. He’s his own worst enemy. Hopefully we get to see him fight AJ and we’ll see who’s right

Zhang doesn’t throw enough because his stamina is poor, it’s as simple as that. And that’s not going to change at 41 years old.

That said, I also want to see that fight before Zhang gets even older. However, I’m happier with a Dubois fight, given their respective performances against Hrgorvic and the fact that Dubois is a far fresher fighter who will have a much bigger work rate and carry his output and danger beyond 6 rounds.

[Blackstarr]

Getting dropped isn't the measure of a boxer's chin. How you are after getting back up is. In that respect Parker's chin is legit!

AJ's, meh...not so much. His punch resistance may be gone for all we know cos it hasn't been tested in 4 fights.

He's had 1 and a half rounds against an MMA guy and 6 soft rounds with his sparring partner in the last year.

I dunno if that's enough to handle what the big Doobie is gonna throw at him.

You make a fair point..Parker got up and made it to the final bell against all of them apart from Joyce, and I too rate his chin.

My point remains that AJ has been down less against equally, if not greater punchers and was only knocked out by one, despite being hit cleanly plenty of times. Klitschko, Povetkin, Whyte and Usyk x2 all put hands on AJ and he came through it fine.

So arguing that his chin and heart is fragile sounds dumb to me. As does speculating that his punch resistance could be gone..based on what? Age? Wear and tear? He’s not old for today’s HW and by your own assertion he hasn’t been tested since Usyk.

I like sticking to factual observations, instead of unfounded speculation based on clear bias, which is all too common on this forum.

[greeneye99]

You make a fair point..Parker got up and made it to the final bell against all of them apart from Joyce, and I too rate his chin.

My point remains that AJ has been down less against equally, if not greater punchers and was only knocked out by one, despite being hit cleanly plenty of times. Klitschko, Povetkin, Whyte and Usyk x2 all put hands on AJ and he came through it fine.

So arguing that his chin and heart is fragile sounds dumb to me. As does speculating that his punch resistance could be gone..based on what? Age? Wear and tear? He’s not old for today’s HW and by your own assertion he hasn’t been tested since Usyk.

I like sticking to factual observations, instead of unfounded speculation based on clear bias, which is all too common on this forum.

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No speculation & unfounded Views
This was the best unbiased & fair analysis

[pollywog]

You make a fair point..Parker got up and made it to the final bell against all of them apart from Joyce, and I too rate his chin.

My point remains that AJ has been down less against equally, if not greater punchers and was only knocked out by one, despite being hit cleanly plenty of times. Klitschko, Povetkin, Whyte and Usyk x2 all put hands on AJ and he came through it fine.

So arguing that his chin and heart is fragile sounds dumb to me. As does speculating that his punch resistance could be gone..based on what? Age? Wear and tear? He’s not old for today’s HW and by your own assertion he hasn’t been tested since Usyk.

I like sticking to factual observations, instead of unfounded speculation based on clear bias, which is all too common on this forum.

The facts are, the last time AJ got knocked down, he quit in his corner rather than get knocked out and hasn't been the same since.

Parker went out on his shield against Joyce, and got up from Zhang twice to outbox and outlast him.

AJ's chin hasn't been tested in his last 4 fights. Parker's has. Doobie will lay hands on AJ for sure and if he goes down, he's probably going out because you can't use the Klitshcko knockdown from 7 years ago as a measure of Joshua's current punch resistance.

[Blackstarr]

The facts are, the last time AJ got knocked down, he quit in his corner rather than get knocked out and hasn't been the same since.

Parker went out on his shield against Joyce, and got up from Zhang twice to outbox and outlast him.

AJ's chin hasn't been tested in his last 4 fights. Parker's has. Doobie will lay hands on AJ for sure and if he goes down, he's probably going out because you can't use the Klitshcko knockdown from 7 years ago as a measure of Joshua's current punch resistance.

But he didn’t quit in his corner did he, you absolute dunce..the ref called it off in the 7th after AJ had gotten to his feet. It’s either you’ve come to a mistaken conclusion on AJ’s heart and chin based on an incorrect recollection of events, or you’re making up BS for no reason..which one is it?

And did you read my comment about all the fighters that have put hands on AJ besides Klitschko? Including Usyk, who beat down DD and should’ve had a TKO victory against Fury in many people’s eyes? It’s not AJ’s problem that his chin has been able to withstand getting dropped since the last time he got knocked down..that points to him having a good punch resistance in first place.

[pollywog]

But he didn’t quit in his corner did he, you absolute dunce..the ref called it off in the 7th after AJ had gotten to his feet. It’s either you’ve come to a mistaken conclusion on AJ’s heart and chin based on an incorrect recollection of events, or you’re making up BS for no reason..which one is it?

And did you read my comment about all the fighters that have put hands on AJ besides Klitschko? Including Usyk, who beat down DD and should’ve had a TKO victory against Fury in many people’s eyes? It’s not AJ’s problem that his chin has been able to withstand getting dropped since the last time he got knocked down..that points to him having a good punch resistance in first place.

Joshua ABSOLUTELY quit in his corner against Ruiz you moronic fücktard. There is no mistaken conclusion, it's not bullshït and the reason is because he KNEW if he came out he was going nighty night. The eyes don't lie.

He wimped out cos he knew he had a rematch clause to make up for the humiliating defeat he was suffering. And in that rematch he ran and poked his way to a points victory like a fücking coward.

Yeah i read your post. What it points out is that AJ hasn't been tested by a big young in form puncher like Dubois for a looooong time and has been ducking legit contenders since Ruiz, who let's not forget was a cherry pick gone wrong.

He should have faced Joyce, Hrgovic, Zhang, Wilder while they were relevant but he didnt. He CHOSE Franklin, Helenius, Wallin and Ngannou. None of whom were any sort of threat or legitimately ranked as top tier contenders.

The guy has a suspect chin and Doobie is gonna test it. If Joshua loses by KO or quits again it'll prove what most suspect, that Ruiz ruined him and he's no longer relevant or even a worthy contender, just like Wilder.

It's shït or get off the pot time. He can't hide behind Hearn's mealy mouthed weasel words and girls blouse anymore.

[HeadShots]

But he didn’t quit in his corner did he, you absolute dunce..the ref called it off in the 7th after AJ had gotten to his feet. It’s either you’ve come to a mistaken conclusion on AJ’s heart and chin based on an incorrect recollection of events, or you’re making up BS for no reason..which one is it?

And did you read my comment about all the fighters that have put hands on AJ besides Klitschko? Including Usyk, who beat down DD and should’ve had a TKO victory against Fury in many people’s eyes? It’s not AJ’s problem that his chin has been able to withstand getting dropped since the last time he got knocked down..that points to him having a good punch resistance in first place.

a 5'10 obese mexican made AJ quit in his corner. this is a fact.

[Enrique Ignacio]

zhang is a big old stiff... someone like that isnt beating joshua