Is Calzhage One of The Best Ever?

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  • Shadow boxer 3
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    #41
    calzaghe who ???

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      #42
      Originally posted by Merseyside
      Who's Calzhage?
      I want to know too

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        #43
        Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
        calzaghe who ???
        Joe Calzaghe

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        • theboymartay
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          #44
          It’s a difficult one really.

          What will always go against Calzaghe is the fact he seemingly wouldn’t fight outside Britain, which alienated him from one of the biggest markets in boxing (i.e. America). Also what sticks in my throat is the three pull outs from fighting Glenn Johnson (who I think he would have beaten anyway), which also doesn’t help with the American audience. I also don’t believe his stay at home attitude was all his fault, Frank Warren is renowned for protecting his cash cows.

          As for beating Hopkins (which he did) and Jones I don’t think they can be counted given their relative ages. What is interesting from reading Calzaghe’s book he has a wrist injury which he incurred during his amateur days which caused major problems during his pro career, taking that into account Calzaghe did not do the sparring that other fighters would do, therefore his ability to adapt in fights adds major weight to his status as one of the best in the division.

          I think a lot of people may suggest the likes of Roy Jones, but I don’t think you can really include him, he only had 6 fights really at supermiddleweight and the same issue of fighting away from home can also be levelled at him. Can you imagine a prime Jones against a prime Calazaghe...wow now that’s a fight! Such a shame that the sport doesn’t see the best fight the best often (if at all). In addition Calzaghe made a number of pointless WBO title defences against inferior opposition; again the same can be levelled at Jones.
          From this side of the pond, I was lucky to grow up during the Eubank, Benn and Collins years they have to be up there although prime against prime I think Jones and Calzaghe could beat them.

          Another fighter who finished undefeated was Sven Ottke who I would discount purely due to the number of questionable decisions he got in Germany.

          Going back further, Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler (ok they were more middleweights however given the actual age of the supermiddleweight division) if they were fighting now they could mix it. Going back further what about Sugar Ray Robinson?

          For this rather than saying “is Calzaghe the best” more who are the contenders? Calzaghe certainly is one of them.

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          • djtmal
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            #45
            Originally posted by Dambala
            I would never understand why he's so hated here. In my personal view he's one of the best ever at super middleweight but not a top 50 ATG, maybe between 60-70, but I really liked to see him fight and was one of my favorites when he was active.
            top 30 imo...definitely waaaay ahead of hopkins, despite what hopkins nutthuggers think...

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              #46
              Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
              calzaghe who ???
              the guy who started out his career going to shelters and slap the homeless, only to later start pushing senior citizens out of their wheelchairs (after punching them in the nuts if necessary).

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              • Shadow boxer 3
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                #47
                Originally posted by #1Assassin
                the guy who started out his career going to shelters and slap the homeless, only to later start pushing senior citizens out of their wheelchairs (after punching them in the nuts if necessary).
                ohh, u mean that guy. calslappy

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                • shonuff488
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                  #48
                  Sven Ottke is the best ever.

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                  • Ivansmamma
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by rskumm21
                    Lacy the ATG?HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Get the **** out of here!

                    Prime Jones????WTF!!! Did you not see him get knocked the **** out twice???

                    Bernard Hopkins, a boxing lesson??!!! You honestly call that fight a boxing lesson???

                    Oh man, I'm slow. I thought you were actually serious. You're funny man good one. Green K for you Bro!!!
                    Thank You

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                    • medium-deek
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                      #50
                      mother ***ing ****ine haters. die.

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