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  • Super_Lightweight
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    #21
    hmm

    we wll know they both beat PAC,
    Actually, no. Let's not do the revisionist history thing. JMM would have received an official loss to Pac had it not been for a scoring error in the 1st round made by a judge who was unsure of how to score the round due to all the knockdowns.

    JMM adjusted well and won most of the rounds, but he did not win the fight. Officially it was a draw, and it should have been a win for Pac on the judge's scorecards. Read *********.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
      Actually, no. Let's not do the revisionist history thing. JMM would have received an official loss to Pac had it not been for a scoring error in the 1st round made by a judge who was unsure of how to score the round due to all the knockdowns.

      JMM adjusted well and won most of the rounds, but he did not win the fight. Officially it was a draw, and it should have been a win for Pac on the judge's scorecards. Read *********.
      You say lets not do the revisionist thing but you do anyway. JMM was seen winning that fight just as much as pacquiao. What the judge did and did not score is irrelevant as some of the rounds the judges scores should have gone JMM's way.

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        Gran Campeon
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        #23
        Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
        Don't even play, dude. It's called sparring for a reason (if that's even true). Mayweather would **** Morales up. Morales weighs 140 in fights while Castillo weighs 153, and Mayweather did a number on Castillo who in my opinion would also destroy Morales.
        Your doing a A beat B and B beat C so A beats C comparison. I also agree that Castillo would mess Morales up and stop him.

        However Mayweather and Morales they would both Box. Mayweather while he does throw combinations is rare and does more one punch here one punch there.

        It would be a good fight. Dont get me wrong i would put my money on Mayweather to win but Morales has wanted a shot at Mayweather for a while now.

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        • Super_Lightweight
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          #24
          hmm

          What the judge did and did not score is irrelevant as some of the rounds the judges scores should have gone JMM's way.
          I respect your opinion, but it's crazy to say it's not relevant. Of course it is, a slight difference in scoring would have awarded the fight to Pac. JMM adjusted well but he would have had to win ALMOST all of the rounds left to really be considered the winner. In any case, I am not engaging in revisionist history. JMM didn't really win the fight, it was a draw, and it is an indisputable fact that one judge made a scoring error, that without, Pac would have been made the winner. How you scored the rest of the fight is another issue.

          As for Mayweather and Morales, I'm using size as an issue, not the whole "Mayweather beat Corrales so he beats Morales" thing. Morales does not have boxing skills like Mayweather, and he needs to be as big and as powerful or bigger than Castillo to beat Mayweather, and he simply is NOT. Morales just does not have the size to impose any will on Mayweather.
          Last edited by Super_Lightweight; 03-20-2005, 05:19 PM. Reason: dfh

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            #25
            Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
            I respect your opinion, but it's crazy to say it's not relevant. Of course it is, a slight difference in scoring would have awarded the fight to Pac. JMM adjusted well but he would have had to win ALMOST all of the rounds left to really be considered the winner. In any case, I am not engaging in revisionist history. JMM didn't really win the fight, it was a draw, and it is an indisputable fact that one judge made a scoring error, that without, Pac would have been made the winner. How you scored the rest of the fight is another issue.

            As for Mayweather and Morales, I'm using size as an issue, not the whole "Mayweather beat Corrales so he beats Morales" thing. Morales does not have boxing skills like Mayweather, and he needs to be as big and as powerful or bigger than Castillo to beat Mayweather, and he simply is NOT. Morales just does not have the size to impose any will on Mayweather.
            YEs you are engaging in revisionist story, you keep saying you are not but you are man. how come you can point out the error in the first round but u dont point out the errors of some rounds that were scored in pacs favor that should have gone to JMM.

            Half the world saw JMM half the other saw Pac win. A draw is probably fair but to say PAC deserved the win cus of the error that would have favored pac is unfair as there were errors that favored JMM.

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              #26
              Its A Draw!!!!

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                #27
                I don't think Morales steps in there with MAB with the possibility of going down 3 out of 4 times to a man he hates. Also, why give MAB the big payday? Rematch with Pac.

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