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  • Al Haymon
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    Nick CHARLES talks about Pacquiao, Cotto, Mayweather...

    In one of the topics hit, Tyler asks Charles if he could look down the road and speculate on how Manny Pacquiao would do against "Money Floyd Mayweather Jr?

    Charles tells DoghouseBoxing that he first needs to see Pacquiao against Miguel Cotto (they fight November 14), and added that he thinks Maywather Jr. is the best fighter on the planet : "I have to see how Pacquiao does against Cotto, it’s just too premature. I think Mayweather is the best fighter in the world, he just neutralizes a guy better than any other fighter and he puts you in a position to lose, even though you have always put yourself in a position to succeed. You face him and it will end up different."



    DT – Nick, let’s go outside Showtime for a bit. We just watched Mayweather overwhelm Juan Manuel Marquez.

    NC – I didn’t even order that fight, it’s exactly the way I thought the fight would go so there was no suspense or drama for that one.

    DT – How about Pacquiao/ Cotto fight?

    NC – I have talked about that fight in length and I might even do the international feed for the fight. I have always liked Cotto for a lot of reasons. I watched him against Margarito and I don’t care if he had a sledge hammer in his trunks, he took something out of Cotto. I watched him against Clottey and I believe that Clottey gave that fight away. He had Cotto cut and hurt and did not take advantage of this. I really give it to Bob Arum; he has two guys signed and has them fight each other. Yes they are going to make a lot of money but he could have had Cotto fight someone else, he could have had Pacquiao fight someone else. He would have made money for both and avoided a major loss for one of his fighters. I like Pacquiao in this fight, I picked Hatton to beat Pacquiao and boy was I wrong, I thought it had to end sometime for Pacquiao even though they were both the same height and build. I was so wrong on that I’m thinking that maybe he will beat Cotto. I believe that Cotto will be really dangerous early; he is a great body puncher and will try to work the body in the early rounds. Freddie Roach’s challenge will be to try and not take away Pacquiao’s aggressiveness but make him box and fight fast. Get in and get out, and hit Cotto from different angles. I think Freddie sees some weaknesses in Cotto and the big one is that he can be hit and how he gets hit. He stands in the pocket and can get hit easily. But Roach is amazing in the fact that he can spot these weak points in other fighters and take advantage of them. He certainly had a great plan for Hatton. So, I feel Freddie will not take away Pacquiao’s aggressiveness but box more in the early rounds and wait for Cotto to fade down the stretch. I pick Pacquiao by split decision.

    DT – Can we look down the road and speculate on how Pacquiao would do against Mayweather?

    NC – I have to see how Pacquiao does against Cotto, it’s just too premature. I think Mayweather is the best fighter in the world, he just neutralizes a guy better than any other fighter and he puts you in a position to lose, even though you have always put yourself in a position to succeed. You face him and it will end up different. If there is any question about Mayweather it would be his chin. We just don’t know but maybe if you nailed him cleanly he may go down. Then you have the question does Pacquiao have the power to make this happen? Mayweather is good at 147, in fact he is excellent. I don’t think it’s hard for him to make that weight. Maybe 147 is too much for Pacquiao who started at something like 106? I could be wrong but right now I would lean toward Mayweather. Of course my opinion could change depending on how Pacquiao looks against Cotto, a true 147 pound fighter.

    DT – I agree and HBO does a good job promoting the PPV events.

    NC – I think the 24/7’s leading into the event help the sport. I see them all the time where I go to work out and because it is on regular HBO it attracts fans from other sports. They are not going to get much information from the newspapers so the only other source of information would be the internet. I read the New York Times and I was very surprised that nothing was mentioned about the Vitaly Klitschko/ Chris Areolla fight. That deserved some attention in a national newspaper because the dynamics of the event. A heavyweight championship fight with ethnic background of Areolla as a Mexican American heavyweight, Klitschko’s age, it would have been great to see more pre-fight coverage. People don’t realize how good and how hard the older Klitschko hits. I was talking to Michael Buffer a couple of weeks ago and he said you could feel the impact of those blows at ringside. Those kinds of things deserve to be talked about more than they are and it really frustrates me as someone who loves boxing.
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    Regardingthe tourney....

    David Tyler – Nick lately I have been interviewing your fellow Showtime colleagues about the upcoming Super Middleweight Tournament.

    Nick Charles – I think this tournament is fabulous, I just want to make sure that I don’t come across like I’m a pitchman for the network but I think it is a daunting proposition in the fact that this tournament is going to play out over a lot of time and to keep everybody healthy is absolutely key to the success of the tournament. I just love the components, Arthur Abraham is moving up in weight, Jermaine Taylor is not a ringer but he is the veteran, like the warhorse who belongs at that weight, then we have the great unknown, Mikkel Kessler who could be the very best at that weight, then of course Carl Froch and we have seen how he pulls fights out of the fire, we have followed Andre Ward up through the ranks and watched him pass his first major league test with an impressive win over Edison Miranda, then the great unknown is Andre Dirrell he is a guy who has so much talent, speed, quickness, power, but who knows how he will react when one of these world class 168 pounders hits him flush with a shot, is he going to go down and we never seen him again or will he win the tournament? I just wish that Lucian Bute was included but I guess you had to draw the line somewhere. I just think the concept is fabulous.

    DT – I really like the fact that you could lose a fight and still end up winning the tournament.

    NC- Exactly, that’s my feeling too. It gives the tournament intrigue you can have somebody come back. A guy like Kessler could lose his first fight in Oakland and then come back and winning the whole thing and show why many still feel he is the class of all of them. So absolutely, that rule gives it even more bite to me.

    DT - Judging by the e-mails I receive, most of our readers believe that the tournament will be dominated by the Europeans.


    NC – I’m not sure. Let’s look at Carl Froch, I don’t know how good he will be, his mental toughness is good, then Jermaine Taylor’s mental toughness is not good. Taylor had Kelly Pavlik out or should have had him out; he gave away a fight to Froch by not focusing properly. So I give Froch mental toughness. Kessler, it’s no disgrace losing to Joe Calzaghe, he looked fabulous against a tune-up opponent, but he looks to be the complete package. In terms of world class experience I don’t know that Carl Froch has any more experience than Andre Ward who we were very critical of being moved along slowly until his impressive victory over Miranda. That’s as legitimate as beating Jermaine Taylor but beyond that I don’t know who Froch has beaten. Dirrell is the wildcard after his victories over Anthony Hanshaw and Victor Oganov he is very much in this tournament. Certainly with Froch, Kessler, and Abraham being champions, I can see why people would give the edge to the Europeans. I don’t mean to wave the flag and be a patriot but I have always liked Arthur Abraham, I had him in my top ten after that first fight with Edison Miranda where he suffered a broken jaw and went on to win the fight. I think the world of him, maybe he is a little short at 168 lbs. but I think we all knew he was moving up to 168 lbs; his lack of height will be made up by his punching power. I would give the slightest of edge to the Europeans, because there is such a dark horse with Dirrell, and Ward with only one win over a legitimate opponent but he did it in impressive fashion. Many believe Taylor is on his way down, so for those reasons maybe you could give a slight edge to the Europeans.

    DT – In your career have you ever seen a tournament like this?

    NC – I seem to remember something by HBO with the middleweights, but nothing like this tournament. Not over this duration and certainly not with this quality of fighters. I still wish Bute was in the tournament because I have done two or three of his fights but it just didn’t work out for whatever reason. I know he had to defend against Librado Andrade again and chose not to give up his belt. That may have been part of it, I don’t claim to know all the machinations of it and why he was the odd man out. In terms of depth and quality, a guy moving up who has dominated the middleweights, a guy moving up who has also been a middleweight champion, a guy who was the last Olympian Gold Medalist from the United States, and then a kid with so much ability, Dirrell. I think the opponents and the depth are unmatched in terms of previous tournaments. Give all the credit to Ken Hershman for putting this thing together.

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      Originally posted by Al Haymon
      Many believe Taylor is on his way down, so .....
      It's almost amazing to think that Taylor has two wins over Hopkins on his resume.

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