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  • LAchargers373
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    #21
    Originally posted by TheWinners

    You do realize this man is turning 37 right? Move up to 160? It's laughable there are people who exist that believe he could best Canelo at 168. He's not a defensive master like Mayweather was. He's going to get hit by the hardest puncher 3 divisions up from his weight class. It's a money grab at best which is why Canelo isn't interested. He can make money without Crawford. And he won't get credit for the win.

    You guys are gassing this man up after dominating a clearly faded Spence Jr. Crawfords never looked that good in a fight. Kel Brook and Porter gave him some good rounds. I'm not saying he's not good, but he's not as good as he looked vs Spence Jr. That was more a product of a slowly deteriorating Spence Jr. when you do the math. And that's his best win.
    Ya Ura hater. Crawford is better than ur giving him credit

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    • TheWinners
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      #22
      Originally posted by LAchargers373

      Ya Ura hater. Crawford is better than ur giving him credit
      No I believe we're giving him too much credit. His best win is a guy he waited too long to fight. It's not his fault Spence Jr. flew through a windshield, but he should've fought him sooner. Almost all of his impressive wins at 147 were vs fighters with Ls already.

      And now with the chance to prove he's a dog and beat a young up and coming Boots, he's dodging him for a payday. He would give Canelo a few good rounds and get stopped. He's not this world beater you're making him out to be and has never proved he was. Rather purposely or just a mismanaged career.

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        #23
        Originally posted by TheWinners

        No I believe we're giving him too much credit. His best win is a guy he waited too long to fight. It's not his fault Spence Jr. flew through a windshield, but he should've fought him sooner. Almost all of his impressive wins at 147 were vs fighters with Ls already.

        And now with the chance to prove he's a dog and beat a young up and coming Boots, he's dodging him for a payday. He would give Canelo a few good rounds and get stopped. He's not this world beater you're making him out to be and has never proved he was. Rather purposely or just a mismanaged career.
        I mean everyone on this site knows I felt crawford was overated I was very vocal about that his whole career. I’ve also been critical about him not defending his undisputed title at 147 even once. He did the same at 140 without fighting the top 140lb fighters as well I thought that was suspect. As much as I want to call it a duck tho it’s hard to say that really. Crawford’s can still achieve all time greatness but he has to fight the right opponents now. I’m not a hater tho the dude is a great fighter I can’t only dwell on what he hasn’t done. He’s done a lot too

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          #24
          Originally posted by LAchargers373

          I mean everyone on this site knows I felt crawford was overated I was very vocal about that his whole career. I’ve also been critical about him not defending his undisputed title at 147 even once. He did the same at 140 without fighting the top 140lb fighters as well I thought that was suspect. As much as I want to call it a duck tho it’s hard to say that really. Crawford’s can still achieve all time greatness but he has to fight the right opponents now. I’m not a hater tho the dude is a great fighter I can’t only dwell on what he hasn’t done. He’s done a lot too
          So its like we agree lol. Did I read that wrong? How am I a hater? Seems we share the same opinions.

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            #25
            Originally posted by TheWinners

            So it’s like we agree lol. Did I read that wrong? How am I a hater? Seems we share the same opinions.
            We do agree to a point. I just think you’re overlooking Crawford’s accomplishments a bit and emphasizing his shortcomings. We can’t blame him for the Spence fight not happening sooner and he destroyed Spence. It’s clear who was delaying that fight and it wasn’t Crawford. His win over Porter was legit. The Brook fight was a sham cause Brook was retired then came back lol. I do think bud needs another elite win on his resume to be considered as great as he is by his fan boys but he’s already a HOFamer and one of the best of this era

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              #26
              Originally posted by LAchargers373

              We do agree to a point. I just think you’re overlooking Crawford’s accomplishments a bit and emphasizing his shortcomings. We can’t blame him for the Spence fight not happening sooner and he destroyed Spence. It’s clear who was delaying that fight and it wasn’t Crawford. His win over Porter was legit. The Brook fight was a sham cause Brook was retired then came back lol. I do think bud needs another elite win on his resume to be considered as great as he is by his fan boys but he’s already a HOFamer and one of the best of this era
              I really don't think it's clear. After all Spence went way out of his way to make the fight happen. I think Bud is just a stubborn dude. Looking at what he's doing with his career now, how he's ignoring Boots and fighting Madrimov, I can't say we know who held the fight up.

              He can be one of the best of this era. But when you look at his career defining fights, he doesn't have anything that stands out besides a Spence jr dominance. Which will always have an asterisk because his nemesis flew through a windshield. I'm critical of him and guys like Haney. Of course I think Bud is light-years better than Haney. Just the level of opposition is found lacking in comparison to other greats. That's my opinion.

              And what hypocrisy from Bud. Everyone says he's a dog. Yet hes been off for a year, why didn't he go whoop Boots? Mayweather whooped Canelo the same age as Crawford now. You want to call yourself the best, but who have you beat to solidify that? Besides Spence Jr, who have you fought that the outcome was debatable?

              I'm just sick of the excuses. He blamed PBC for not giving him a chance, then he sued his promoter who guided his entire career and he resigned with. Now on top of that he's overlooking Boots. Remember how difficult it was to negotiate with him. He had a problem over some **** we never heard about in a negotiation. What funds were going to this or that. We never heard of that ****. Remember it was Spence Jr that was the reason the fight was made. I guess because he knew he had to do something quick after such a life altering event.

              Someone who probably believes hes the best of all time, let's name his best wins. Spence Jr. after he flew through a windshield, Ricky Burns, Viktor Postol, and Shawn Porter. Really? Usyk, Inoue, Bivol, Canelo all have better wins. Canelo defeated his nemesis twice. Then cleaned out a division. Usyk defeated Joshua twice then became undisputed. Inoue did similar. Bivol beat Canelo and is fighting a very dangerous Beterbiev. Just seems to me when we talk about best of this era, other fighters have better resumes, more activity, more career defining wins.

              I rest my case though.

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                #27
                Originally posted by LAchargers373

                We do agree to a point. I just think you’re overlooking Crawford’s accomplishments a bit and emphasizing his shortcomings. We can’t blame him for the Spence fight not happening sooner and he destroyed Spence. It’s clear who was delaying that fight and it wasn’t Crawford. His win over Porter was legit. The Brook fight was a sham cause Brook was retired then came back lol. I do think bud needs another elite win on his resume to be considered as great as he is by his fan boys but he’s already a HOFamer and one of the best of this era
                I also find it interesting that all these Top rank fighters throw shade at Bob Arum when they leave his promotion. They're ok taking the paydays and being showcased vs mediocre talent. But then claim it stalled their career. Sounds familiar?

                When the paydays were coming in and the almost guaranteed victories were lined up due to careful matchmaking it was ok. All of a sudden after eating off these mediocre fights, careers have been stalled. Its the same story. But these fighters know what theyre getting. They aren't being thrown to the wolves.

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                  #28
                  Madrimov is not a joke, Bud better take him seriously.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by TheWinners

                    I really don't think it's clear. After all Spence went way out of his way to make the fight happen. I think Bud is just a stubborn dude. Looking at what he's doing with his career now, how he's ignoring Boots and fighting Madrimov, I can't say we know who held the fight up.

                    He can be one of the best of this era. But when you look at his career defining fights, he doesn't have anything that stands out besides a Spence jr dominance. Which will always have an asterisk because his nemesis flew through a windshield. I'm critical of him and guys like Haney. Of course I think Bud is light-years better than Haney. Just the level of opposition is found lacking in comparison to other greats. That's my opinion.

                    And what hypocrisy from Bud. Everyone says he's a dog. Yet hes been off for a year, why didn't he go whoop Boots? Mayweather whooped Canelo the same age as Crawford now. You want to call yourself the best, but who have you beat to solidify that? Besides Spence Jr, who have you fought that the outcome was debatable?

                    I'm just sick of the excuses. He blamed PBC for not giving him a chance, then he sued his promoter who guided his entire career and he resigned with. Now on top of that he's overlooking Boots. Remember how difficult it was to negotiate with him. He had a problem over some **** we never heard about in a negotiation. What funds were going to this or that. We never heard of that ****. Remember it was Spence Jr that was the reason the fight was made. I guess because he knew he had to do something quick after such a life altering event.

                    Someone who probably believes hes the best of all time, let's name his best wins. Spence Jr. after he flew through a windshield, Ricky Burns, Viktor Postol, and Shawn Porter. Really? Usyk, Inoue, Bivol, Canelo all have better wins. Canelo defeated his nemesis twice. Then cleaned out a division. Usyk defeated Joshua twice then became undisputed. Inoue did similar. Bivol beat Canelo and is fighting a very dangerous Beterbiev. Just seems to me when we talk about best of this era, other fighters have better resumes, more activity, more career defining wins.

                    I rest my case though.
                    Lmao he NOT the best ever. Just currently the best of this terrible era. I hold floyd manny ODLH tito trinidad all in a higher regard than Crawford. I personally feel Crawford has ducked his mandatories at every level. His 135-140 run was laughable. Postol being his best win there. 147 run was legit albeit against fighters who were retired(kell Brook) or on their last career fight(Porter). The Jeff horn was meh I didn’t find it impressive Jeff horn was never any good. I personally feel he definitely ducked ennis. But I try not to let my personal feelings dictate things. Madrimov is a good fighter. Better than Spence. So let’s see how he handles him then go from there

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                    • TheWinners
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by LAchargers373

                      Lmao he NOT the best ever. Just currently the best of this terrible era. I hold floyd manny ODLH tito trinidad all in a higher regard than Crawford. I personally feel Crawford has ducked his mandatories at every level. His 135-140 run was laughable. Postol being his best win there. 147 run was legit albeit against fighters who were retired(kell Brook) or on their last career fight(Porter). The Jeff horn was meh I didn’t find it impressive Jeff horn was never any good. I personally feel he definitely ducked ennis. But I try not to let my personal feelings dictate things. Madrimov is a good fighter. Better than Spence. So let’s see how he handles him then go from there
                      Yeah I don't know too much about Madrimov. I hear he's legit. We'll see!

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