I think Tank will knock this version of Loma out.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm surprised that's your take on it, Teo was considered undisputed when he beat Loma and that's what Loma went for. He ended fighting an even better Haney later on so it's not like he was avoiding him, he really wanted be undisputed. That's always been his thing, it's not a fallacy.

As fo Shakur, I just want to see the best fight the best.

No he wasn’t. He didn’t have all the belts.

If you say you want all the belts, and give one away, then get caught lying about it to Dan Rafael, those actions far outweigh the words imo.

Yes because Haney had all the belts. Otherwise, he would never have fought him. He had no choice.

Yes. The 2 best LW’s are Shakur and Loma. They should have fought instead of that BS Kambosos garbage.

[BoxingParadigm]

No he wasn’t. He didn’t have all the belts.

If you say you want all the belts, and give one away, then get caught lying about it to Dan Rafael, those actions far outweigh the words imo.

Yes because Haney had all the belts. Otherwise, he would never have fought him. He had no choice.

Yes. The 2 best LW’s are Shakur and Loma. They should have fought instead of that BS Kambosos garbage.

You're in the minority saying Teo wasn't undisputed, besides fighting Haney for all the belts further proves he had always wanted all the belts. It's what he wants to accomplish in professional boxing.

I personally think the two best lightweights are Tank (#1 in my eyes) and Stevenson (#2 in my eyes) but it's close. I think Loma loses to both but he's a great challenge and excellent name for both of them to fight.

[The Big Dunn]

You're in the minority saying Teo wasn't undisputed, besides fighting Haney for all the belts further proves he had always wanted all the belts. It's what he wants to accomplish in professional boxing.

I personally think the two best lightweights are Tank (#1 in my eyes) and Stevenson (#2 in my eyes) but it's close. I think Loma loses to both but he's a great challenge and excellent name for both of them to fight.

How can I be? He didn’t have all the belts. It isn’t the same as say Usyk being called undisputed once the IBF strips him because he had all 4 at the same time.

Teo had 2. Loma had 1. Haney had the other. Unless I’m mistaken.

Again, at that point he had no choice because Haney acquired all 4 belts in the ring. Bob all but set it up.

Ok. Shakur is leaving TR after this fight in part because Bob wouldn’t make the Loma fight. If he goes to PBC, Tank has to fight him.

I don’t think Tank wins.

[BoxingParadigm]

How can I be? He didn’t have all the belts. It isn’t the same as say Usyk being called undisputed once the IBF strips him because he had all 4 at the same time.

Teo had 2. Loma had 1. Haney had the other. Unless I’m mistaken.

Again, at that point he had no choice because Haney acquired all 4 belts in the ring. Bob all but set it up.

Ok. Shakur is leaving TR after this fight in part because Bob wouldn’t make the Loma fight. If he goes to PBC, Tank has to fight him.

I don’t think Tank wins.

Loma was "elevated" he didn't vacate or get stripped. WBC even made a statement (if memory serves me right) saying Loma was the main champion and undisputed.

I'm not sure Stevenson beats Tank. I think Stevenon is a really difficult opponent but I think Tank is special, and he may be approaching Crawford/Mayweather type of special in my mind in terms of ability.

[The Big Dunn]

Loma was "elevated" he didn't vacate or get stripped. WBC even made a statement (if memory serves me right) saying Loma was the main champion and undisputed.

I'm not sure Stevenson beats Tank. I think Stevenon is a really difficult opponent but I think Tank is special, and he may be approaching Crawford/Mayweather type of special in my mind in terms of ability.

He asked for it. Told Rafael he didn’t. Then they gave the belt to Haney, hence everyone calling Haney the email champ. That is suspect.

Ok. I see it the other way- Shakur being the possible Floyd/Bud. I think more people agree with you here.

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Loma will be reluctant to engage. In his 2 most recent lossss he took off the first 6 rounds. Nothing different here. UD 12 I see Tank knocking him down once

This 100%. Loma is going to be very cautious and by the time he starts putting together rounds it will be too late. Also I think tank will knock him down a few times. I see a 117-108 night for tank

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I know. What a bitch move? He waited for Loma to got old and vulnerable in order to call him out and challenge him.

Playing devil’s advocate 5 years ago tank was like 22 and people would say too green for Loma.

[BoxingParadigm]

He asked for it. Told Rafael he didn’t. Then they gave the belt to Haney, hence everyone calling Haney the email champ. That is suspect.

Ok. I see it the other way- Shakur being the possible Floyd/Bud. I think more people agree with you here.

Yeah I think so too, but I think Tank will end up having a higher peak than Stevenson. It doesn't matter to me who ends up winning, but I think Tank pressures Stevenson hard and catches him late.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah I think so too, but I think Tank will end up having a higher peak than Stevenson. It doesn't matter to me who ends up winning, but I think Tank pressures Stevenson hard and catches him late.

A lot of solid posters think same. I think Tank would clearly beat Loma and Shakur in the 15 round era for the reasons you state above.

His slow starting in a 12 round fight is problematic. Can’t consistently give up 3-4 rounds at the top level.

[Lomadeaux]

He gets marked up nearly every fight.

He's a fighter, lmfao.