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  • #21
    It's great that they want to throw money at boxing, but sooner or later if they aren't making money, it's going to come to an end. My other concern is who will be building the talent? They only seem to want the big names fighting each other. I guess it's business as usual for the promoters and sanctioning bodies except for the massive fights at the higher weights.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      Howard Cosell voice:

      DClefthook lands a powerful shot and down goes Pac=Duran.
      Lmao I will never go down. Built different.

      American boxing however is out on its feet. After Crawford there is nobody left

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Phase III View Post
        Following is the Saudi Master Plan from an inside source who has spoken directly to Turkie. Given the Saudi money influence, Turkie can just stage the fights fans desire and fighters could let their contract expire and be part of the Saudi league.

        The key for Turkie’s vision to come full circle is a three step process:

        1. eliminate promoters and managers like Hearn, Warren, and Shelly Finkel, for example, who are basically doing no promoting or managing whatsoever while lining their pockets with easy Saudi money.

        2. The corrupt sanctioning bodies would be eliminated altogether and instead fighters will fight for one belt in each weight division. No more promoter and fighter sanction fees. Instead, fighters will fight for a meaningful and prestigious championship belt. The belt alone would be worth six figures and be designed by Cartier.

        3. The Saudi’s would welcome a truly independent oversight committee which they would fund to resolve any fighter dispute. This would eliminate the useless ABC, which is also run by corrupt idiots who do nothing to protect fighter anyway.

        The Saudi’s would stage fights in the USA, Emirates, and EU where there would be a real boxing atmosphere. Fights would be shown free and income would derived from add revenue given the millions of viewers who would tune in. Bye bye to the pirated streaming services that currently have more viewers than paying PPV customers, and rip off PPV fees.

        There would be no advertising from gaming sites, or alcohol based companies.

        FYI, Bob Arum’s Top Rank is desperately trying to get in bed with Turkie because ESPN is not going to renew his deal.

        Turkie is very interested in the UFC format where fighters fight each other without interference from corrupt Promoters and Managers. UFC President, Dana White may have a critical role for in the Saudi vision. Dana is Turkie’s go to person for guidance given his massive success. The UFC model is exactly what the Saudi’s are planning around. Fireworks, excitement, and massive fan appeal instead of the predictable mismatch, BS fights staged by boxing promoters.

        The one area where the Saudi’s are having a difficult time dealing with are women fights. However, as long as those fights are not staged in Saudi, the problem has a solution because Turkie is aware of the mass fight appeal women have in the UFC.

        Last, all fighters will be subject to VADA testing and any fighter guilty of cheating will receive a lifetime ban from the sport, and not be paid until their test come back negative.
        From your fingers to God's ears.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Phase III View Post
          Following is the Saudi Master Plan from an inside source who has spoken directly to Turkie. Given the Saudi money influence, Turkie can just stage the fights fans desire and fighters could let their contract expire and be part of the Saudi league.

          The key for Turkie’s vision to come full circle is a three step process:

          1. eliminate promoters and managers like Hearn, Warren, and Shelly Finkel, for example, who are basically doing no promoting or managing whatsoever while lining their pockets with easy Saudi money.

          2. The corrupt sanctioning bodies would be eliminated altogether and instead fighters will fight for one belt in each weight division. No more promoter and fighter sanction fees. Instead, fighters will fight for a meaningful and prestigious championship belt. The belt alone would be worth six figures and be designed by Cartier.

          3. The Saudi’s would welcome a truly independent oversight committee which they would fund to resolve any fighter dispute. This would eliminate the useless ABC, which is also run by corrupt idiots who do nothing to protect fighter anyway.

          The Saudi’s would stage fights in the USA, Emirates, and EU where there would be a real boxing atmosphere. Fights would be shown free and income would derived from add revenue given the millions of viewers who would tune in. Bye bye to the pirated streaming services that currently have more viewers than paying PPV customers, and rip off PPV fees.

          There would be no advertising from gaming sites, or alcohol based companies.

          FYI, Bob Arum’s Top Rank is desperately trying to get in bed with Turkie because ESPN is not going to renew his deal.

          Turkie is very interested in the UFC format where fighters fight each other without interference from corrupt Promoters and Managers. UFC President, Dana White may have a critical role for in the Saudi vision. Dana is Turkie’s go to person for guidance given his massive success. The UFC model is exactly what the Saudi’s are planning around. Fireworks, excitement, and massive fan appeal instead of the predictable mismatch, BS fights staged by boxing promoters.

          The one area where the Saudi’s are having a difficult time dealing with are women fights. However, as long as those fights are not staged in Saudi, the problem has a solution because Turkie is aware of the mass fight appeal women have in the UFC.

          Last, all fighters will be subject to VADA testing and any fighter guilty of cheating will receive a lifetime ban from the sport, and not be paid until their test come back negative.
          Jus imagine if they pull this off. No more frauding whatsoever lmao

          God, we might just be entering a golden age of boxing. Undefeated records won't exist anymore. Best fighting the best. No more American A-side/B-side fraud behaviour

          The stink of Floyd will be lifted from boxing.
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          • #25
            Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post
            It's great that they want to throw money at boxing, but sooner or later if they aren't making money, it's going to come to an end. My other concern is who will be building the talent? They only seem to want the big names fighting each other. I guess it's business as usual for the promoters and sanctioning bodies except for the massive fights at the higher weights.
            Lol actually with the saudis, they have little to no financial accountability, and can hemorrhage money if crown princes are enjoying the big events. The way this may fall apart, is turki aliakshi loves boxing, and has alluded to having health problems. If something happens to him, and the guy put in his place has more of a personal reference for something else, you might have the focus shift and Lebron James playing in Riyadh instead for example haha.

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            • #26
              While they are at it, they should develop a health plan for boxers, 401K etc. so they don't end up like Joe Louis, Kid Gavilan and others.

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              • #27
                I do not want a boxing dictatorship ! NO ! Order or Freedom,I choose Freedom with the attendant chaos.
                Last edited by TonyRespectful; 06-12-2024, 11:19 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by JuniorTorres720 View Post
                  What I love about boxing is that super fights are actually "super" fights. UFC gives you the best vs. the best often but without any build up. They literally just throw in the #1 and #2 in the ring together and call it a super fight but it happens so often that it begins to lose it's allure. I agree that you can't let a fight marinate for too long, but I am definitely an advocate of letting fights marinate to become an even bigger deal. Canelo and Benavidez will be a super fight if it happens this year or by next year at the latest. Crawford Spence was a super fight. But if there was a league like the UFC, we would have gotten Spence vs. Crawford years ago and it just wouldn't have had the same magnitude.
                  And that's why the UFC gets better fights. Superfights are super when the best fight the best . Mayweather-Pacquiao wouldve been a superfight no matter what year it happened, same with Spence and Crawford. Matter of fact letting a fight marinate does more harm than good. Like with Spence getting into a wreck. I hate mindsets like yours, foc k you and everything you stand for

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by JuniorTorres720 View Post
                    What I love about boxing is that super fights are actually "super" fights. UFC gives you the best vs. the best often but without any build up. They literally just throw in the #1 and #2 in the ring together and call it a super fight but it happens so often that it begins to lose it's allure. I agree that you can't let a fight marinate for too long, but I am definitely an advocate of letting fights marinate to become an even bigger deal. Canelo and Benavidez will be a super fight if it happens this year or by next year at the latest. Crawford Spence was a super fight. But if there was a league like the UFC, we would have gotten Spence vs. Crawford years ago and it just wouldn't have had the same magnitude.
                    I couldn’t agree more! People are overlooking this thought. It’s all about a me Me me, I want it now society.
                    Dana white and UFC suck. I don’t watch it cuz I can’t pronounce any of the fighters names, and because “Man mounting” is not for me. If you don’t like the players, you won’t like the game. Half of what makes a sport good, or even a tv show, is the soap opera behind it all.
                    JuniorTorres720 JuniorTorres720 likes this.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      This is a great plan, despite the fact it’s the Saudis sportswashing.

                      If it consistently gives us the best fighting the best, every weekend or other weekend, that should help elevate the sport. That is all I want as a diehard fan.
                      all governments are "sportswashing" it's always been a distraction piece lol. including yours yes. who cares who thinks what government is worse. they all do extremely bad things
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