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Originally posted by pollywog View Post
No... the fight was there to be made but Hearn and Joshua wanted to age and shop wear Wilder even right up to the Parker fight.
Prime Wilder always had AJ's number he just wasn't prepared to sell himself short.
Joshua choosing his sparring partner and an MMA guy even recently says he's always quacked over facing Wilder.
Just like AJ is ducking Parker now and always has since jobbing him off his belt 6 years ago.
Easiest way to prove AJ has the heart of a champion and the balls of a warrior is to rematch Parker.
More than likely he'll pick over the carcass of Parkers victims and fight the tired old Chinaman.Last edited by factsarenice; 06-02-2024, 10:08 AM.greeneye99
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Congratulations Zhang, he delivered the big ****.
Wilder can at least retire knowing he was the heavyweight champion at one time, and that he was in an unforgettable trilogy with Fury, where two of the bouts were dramatic.
Mainly of course, millions of dollars, so he and his family don't have to work again, ever.
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Originally posted by james240 View PostSad state of affairs we never got a AJ vs Wilder fight at their peaks
The PBC were NEVER going to risk losing the WBC belt. Wilder missed out on 80-100 million because Shelly Finkel convinced Deontay Wilder to "go another way" in order to keep the money train running IN HOUSE! (see Errol Spence). Finnkel's "easier way" would leap frog AJ and his belts to beat an out of of shape drug addict and claim Lineal Champion status . Unfortunately for Wilder, Shelly Finnkel miss calculated Fury's ability box and take a punch. Without the hype and the belt the entire PBC Heavyweight line up became irrelevant and the rest is history.
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Originally posted by Boro View Post
let's be real here he is definitely making it to the HoF his contemporaries aren't much better so he'll make it on the basis of the trilogy alone.
Don't forget there is guys like Gatti, McGuigan and Mancini who got in, people get in on popularity and style not skill or accomplishments all the time...
Now if he makes it as a first ballot HoF that would be a disgrace.shwaap likes this.
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He lost all those Fury fights, the shocking draw they gave him in the first fight was against a drug addled faded fury who was in way way worse shape than when he fought Ngannou. What do you want me to give him credit for? He spent his entire early carear fighting bums until he got a belt and then avoiding unifications, Vlad, Parker, Joshua always an excuse.
bye Mr Wilder thanks for no memories
Originally posted by Jc8804 View PostWilder never been the same after the Fury wars .
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Originally posted by Poopdick View Post
don't forget to mention Bradley too lol. had take knee against provo to end fight. was on verge of being ko with 13 seconds go when bell rang early against what's his name. and never even in any of fights with pac no matter what judges said 1 time. etc etc.Poopdick likes this.
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Originally posted by Boro View Post
Jessie Vargas if I remember correctly if you're talking about the fight with the ret@rded ref who confused the 10 second warning for the bell?
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Originally posted by Toffee View PostI was never too sure how people didn't see it.
The greatest boxing con job ever. I actually give huge credit to everyone involved for managing to pull it off. It was an audacious move - right down to the detail of building up credibility behind Ortiz specifically for Wilder to knock him out.
And while the fighter himself isn't exactly a sportsman, I do respect him giving us a bit of entertainment and earning a lot of money.
And the sport does need a US Heavyweight.
The very idea that Joshua was ducking him is laughable. Everyone, and I mean everyone, wanted Wilder. When Whyte was ranked highly he wanted him, Joshua always wanted him, Fury was even prepared to fight him as part of his comeback. And then as soon as he lost some of his standing all the fighters with less commercial draw wanted him too.
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