i have just staked the largest cash boxing bet of my life

[RodBarker]

Yeah, but we don't know who the winner is going to be.

If fighter A is a big favourite over fighter B with the bookies, but you perceive the fight as just being 60-40 in favour of fighter A. Betting on fighter B makes sense because of the payoff involved if he pulls off an upset. If someone had a gun to your head and you had to predict the winner, you might choose fighter A. But with good odds, it's worth betting on fighter B.

All sounds good but the aim is to be on the winner , to back a loser because the odds ****** you in is how the bookies win all the time , its like if I gave you 20 to 1 on JMM the other week would you have took the bet because the odds were so enticing , at the end of the day betting is about winning not the odds and that was my point , I do understand what your getting at though value in a bet .

[Bhopreign]

Its all about winning , odds mean nothing when you back the loser .

You think just like me Rod, I dont go by odds, its useless if the guy loses. I pick who I think will win.

[βetamax]

If the odds are good enough you should take the underdog. Anything can happen, nothing is a lock.

If for example Valuev was a 100:1 underdog you would have to be a fool not to drop money on him instead of Haye. Under this scenerio if you bet $100 on Haye you would win $1 yet if you bet $100 on Valuev you would win $10,000.

[Bhopreign]

If the odds are good enough you should take the underdog. Anything can happen, nothing is a lock.

If for example Valuev was a 100:1 underdog you would have to be a fool not to drop money on him instead of Haye. Under this scenerio if you bet $100 on Haye you would win $1 yet if you bet $100 on Valuev you would win $10,000.

Thats is the only time I would drop a small amount on someone who I think wont win, the odds have to be crazy.

[Levcon8686]

All sounds good but the aim is to be on the winner , to back a loser because the odds ****** you in is how the bookies win all the time , its like if I gave you 20 to 1 on JMM the other week would you have took the bet because the odds were so enticing , at the end of the day betting is about winning not the odds and that was my point , I do understand what your getting at though value in a bet .

Yeah that is true. 20-1 on JMM before the fight would have been great odds considering the chance of Floyd's layoff affecting him. After the fight, hindsight takes over and it's like we knew what would happen all along.

You think just like me Rod, I dont go by odds, its useless if the guy loses. I pick who I think will win.

I would always look at the odds as they're very important, but I rarely actually make a bet unless I'm really feeling an outcome and getting good odds aswell. I'm not much of a gambler by nature anyway.

I'm tempted to have a flutter on Taylor - Abraham. Good odds for taylor in what i see as a 50-50 fight.....

[Doctor_Tenma]

150K on Valuev over Haye.

[johnm is...]

LOL @ the "odds don't matter" approach.

Odds are the most important thing in sports betting.

[Doctor_Tenma]

150K on Valuev over Haye.

Anyone? I'm only making one bet.

[Bhopreign]

Yeah that is true. 20-1 on JMM before the fight would have been great odds considering the chance of Floyd's layoff affecting him. After the fight, hindsight takes over and it's like we knew what would happen all along.



I would always look at the odds as they're very important, but I rarely actually make a bet unless I'm really feeling an outcome and getting good odds aswell. I'm not much of a gambler by nature anyway.

I'm tempted to have a flutter on Taylor - Abraham. Good odds for taylor in what i see as a 50-50 fight.....

But without knowing the odds of the Taylor/Abraham fight, who do you think will win? Oddmakers decide odds on who where they think they can get action at best, then the bettors take over from there, with that knowledge the odds shouldnt come too much into play unless they are so crazy you wouldnt mind losing a bet against the risk, I guess thats what youre doing here. Remember Valuev hasnt knocked out an opponent in 3 years, only way I see him doing it is late in the fight when Haye is tired or because Haye fights the wrong fight and gives Valuev numerous chances. But its possible considering Haye's chin.

[βetamax]

Thats is the only time I would drop a small amount on someone who I think wont win, the odds have to be crazy.

Yea, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that ******** isn't always about who you think will win but the odds since everyone has some chance. You just have to make a determination when the odds become favorable compared to that chance.