Comments Thread For: Red Hot Moses Itauma Trusts In Anthony Joshua And Ben Davison

[rudy]

He will get exposed soon

[Roberto Vasquez]

It is with UK heavyweights, Daniel Dubois being the recent example.

Warren rushed him into a ****** fight with Joe Joyce who had like 15 years of experience on him, he then rushed him into another foolish fight vs Usyk.

Heavyweights tend to peak in their late 20s so Itauma is a long time off of that and he needs the experience that he didn't get from the amateurs, fights where he gets a good 8-10 rounds in vs tough guys who will make him think.

If its soft touches then jump straight to a contender it'll all go wrong.

Agree but that's only Warren. Same happened with Fury and Usyk - Fury just hadn't fought a skillful boxer for years before Usyk. It's just ****** levels of preparation

People are always accusing Hearn of "making his fighters lose" by giving them vaguely challenging fights. People are idiots.

[SteveM]

It is with UK heavyweights, Daniel Dubois being the recent example.

Warren rushed him into a ****** fight with Joe Joyce who had like 15 years of experience on him, he then rushed him into another foolish fight vs Usyk.

Heavyweights tend to peak in their late 20s so Itauma is a long time off of that and he needs the experience that he didn't get from the amateurs, fights where he gets a good 8-10 rounds in vs tough guys who will make him think.

If its soft touches then jump straight to a contender it'll all go wrong.

I'm more in favour of getting them in 50-50 fights early - they can come back from losses. Dubois is a step away from world champion level - he didn't get totally out-classed by Usyk. His loss to Joyce exposed a lack of head movement. Sure he learnt. His near loss to lerena probably told him something about being 100% physically prepared for a fight - but taught him he has mental fortitude. The Usyk fight will should be a learning experience. He's still young and is making a lot of money now (which is probably the biggest reason he's in this) which he wouldn't have made if he was still being babied along at british contender level. He might lose to Hgrovic but I'm sure he is making a million plus for this fight.

[Boxing2695]

Do not rush this guy he's got a lot of talent but he's not had anywhere near the amateur career I would have liked.

He needs a slow, steady progression in difficulty, leaning fights, rounds under his belt.

He's 19 so there's absoloutley no issues at all with him spending the next 6 years taking learning and development fights, old school style.

I'd like to see him having over 30 pro fights before we start talking about title shots.

Do it right.

Yeah he did very well at youth level as a amateur but didn't have senior experience at all I think because him and his team or whoever got it into their head about becoming the new youngest heavyweight champion. But I don't think he's gonna be ready for world titles in a years time. The guy is talented and he can fight but he just needs to go through the process have the right fights and tests and see where he is in 2 years or so.

[Boxing2695]

All the talk about trying to have this guy be the youngest heavyweight champion etc I don't think they need to be doing that.. let the guy develop as a fighter and pick the right fights for him and let him learn more and by time he's 23-24 years old he could be such a well rounded fighter. Because he already had the speed,power and punch selection

[Atypicalbrit]

In general is this even a thing in boxing these days? if anything it's the opposite, with media darlings protected far too long until they are exposed by a real deal.
I'm not saying Moses isn't the goods but it's not like rushing a prospect's development is a chronic problem, eh?

It is with UK heavyweights, Daniel Dubois being the recent example.

Warren rushed him into a ****** fight with Joe Joyce who had like 15 years of experience on him, he then rushed him into another foolish fight vs Usyk.

Heavyweights tend to peak in their late 20s so Itauma is a long time off of that and he needs the experience that he didn't get from the amateurs, fights where he gets a good 8-10 rounds in vs tough guys who will make him think.

If its soft touches then jump straight to a contender it'll all go wrong.

[Cyborg Fangerloo]

I am excited about this kid. He is fast and he hits hard. I only hope they turn him into a fighter that works the body during every minute of every fight. His body shots look like the kind that can turn a man from steel to a bean bag chair with a head over 8 rounds.
Everyone has weaknesses and that could nullify or mitigate whatever his turn out to be when we see him step up in competition.

[Left Hook Louie]

Do not rush this guy he's got a lot of talent but he's not had anywhere near the amateur career I would have liked.

He needs a slow, steady progression in difficulty, leaning fights, rounds under his belt.

In general is this even a thing in boxing these days? if anything it's the opposite, with media darlings protected far too long until they are exposed by a real deal.
I'm not saying Moses isn't the goods but it's not like rushing a prospect's development is a chronic problem, eh?

[Atypicalbrit]

Do not rush this guy he's got a lot of talent but he's not had anywhere near the amateur career I would have liked.

He needs a slow, steady progression in difficulty, leaning fights, rounds under his belt.

He's 19 so there's absoloutley no issues at all with him spending the next 6 years taking learning and development fights, old school style.

I'd like to see him having over 30 pro fights before we start talking about title shots.

Do it right.

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Working under Ben Davison has led to the promising Moses Itauma being "mentored" by Anthony Joshua. The 19-year-old won his first fight under Davison when, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on the undercard of Tyson Fury-Oleksandr Usyk, he ruthlessly stopped Germany's Ilja Mezencev in the second round.
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