Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
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I'm glad we can now dead the notion that Ali/Frazier/Holmes/Foreman,etc are too small to beat Fury
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Originally posted by Marchegiano
Didn't learn ****.
Usyk himself is way bigger, rangier, and faster than Frazier. I knew he had the tools and the size to deal with Fury which was why I picked him to win.
Frazier doesnt have the reach and the mobility to catch Fury. It’s just a bad stylistical matchup for him dude.
He would get peppered with jabs all night from long range while doing his bobbing and weaving. Fury’s jabs alone would cause him fits but when he does get inside occasionally, the right hand would be right behind it.
Frazier takes a beating and the ref saves him if his corner doesnt throw in the towel.
Ali and Holmes beats Fury though. But Foreman I have to think about.
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fury can be a dosser and is certainly beatable
but u cant take away the facts he went to germany and beat long reigning vlad to take his titles
he went to the states to take out undefeated wilder who was dangerous and did it a few times
plus put up a good fight v usyk and went for the win
we have no idea how much those wilder shots took out of him either
to me he now looks an older guy, which he is of course, but when u see age on someones face like that its usually not a great sign, no idea if it means he slowed in the ring tho, may do or may not
lets wait to see if fury thinks he can do better in a rematch and wants to
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Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
LOL, ok.
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Originally posted by sbbigmike View Post
Usyk doesn't even beat the old version of James toney lmfao
Toney is such a natural fighter that he can be old, out of shape, and still kick major ass. He is simply an instinctive fighter. Look at his body of work as a HW, it’s mind boggling.
Usyk can’t beat Toney at any weight.
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For years the Fury fanboys were trolling the boxing history forum insisting he'd blow right through any prior generation of HWs. You can't reach some people, once they decide they are unconditional fans of a fighter logic goes out the window.
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Originally posted by Smash View Postfury can be a dosser and is certainly beatable
but u cant take away the facts he went to germany and beat long reigning vlad to take his titles
Fury just caught Wlad at the right time, he was shopworn physically and out of there mentally.
Who the hell can concentrate in a fight when your wife is inches away from killing herself or/ and your baby?
Nor to mention Fury was most likely on PEDs against Wlad, got suspended and ran away like a ***** from the rematch
Fury was always overrated, and definetly a con-man who fooled a lot of people into thinking he was greater than he was
Ali, Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Vitali, Prime Wlad and others would have beaten the **** outta ¨fists of fluff¨ Fury
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Originally posted by lopetego View Post
40yo Wladimir who looked washed up in his previous fight against Jennings, and who was going through heavy marital problems with his crazy wife, with post partum depression, that finally ended up in divorce
Fury just caught Wlad at the right time, he was shopworn physically and out of there mentally.
Who the hell can concentrate in a fight when your wife is inches away from killing herself or/ and your baby?
Nor to mention Fury was most likely on PEDs against Wlad, got suspended and ran away like a ***** from the rematch
Fury was always overrated, and definetly a con-man who fooled a lot of people into thinking he was greater than he was
Ali, Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Vitali, Prime Wlad and others would have beaten the **** outta ¨fists of fluff¨ Fury
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Fury had had the success he's had because of his dimensions. But he's not a special talent. Many feel if Fury didn't have those advantages in height and reach he'd not have had half the success he's had
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