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I'm glad we can now dead the notion that Ali/Frazier/Holmes/Foreman,etc are too small to beat Fury

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  • #11
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

    Usyk was just the best fighter Fury has ever fought and here we have a result. Usyk is better than old version Vlad IMO.
    Usyk doesn't even beat the old version of James toney lmfao
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    • #12
      Originally posted by Marchegiano

      Didn't learn ****.
      So you think Frazier beats Fury just because Usyk did?

      Usyk himself is way bigger, rangier, and faster than Frazier. I knew he had the tools and the size to deal with Fury which was why I picked him to win.

      Frazier doesnt have the reach and the mobility to catch Fury. It’s just a bad stylistical matchup for him dude.

      He would get peppered with jabs all night from long range while doing his bobbing and weaving. Fury’s jabs alone would cause him fits but when he does get inside occasionally, the right hand would be right behind it.

      Frazier takes a beating and the ref saves him if his corner doesnt throw in the towel.

      Ali and Holmes beats Fury though. But Foreman I have to think about.

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      • #13
        fury can be a dosser and is certainly beatable

        but u cant take away the facts he went to germany and beat long reigning vlad to take his titles
        he went to the states to take out undefeated wilder who was dangerous and did it a few times
        plus put up a good fight v usyk and went for the win
        we have no idea how much those wilder shots took out of him either
        to me he now looks an older guy, which he is of course, but when u see age on someones face like that its usually not a great sign, no idea if it means he slowed in the ring tho, may do or may not
        lets wait to see if fury thinks he can do better in a rematch and wants to

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        • #14
          Originally posted by sbbigmike View Post

          Usyk doesn't even beat the old version of James toney lmfao
          LOL, ok.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

            LOL, ok.
            Dude was thoroughly thoroughly outclassed like 4-5 rounds straight fury was in a ultra instinct type zone, and got his nose busted joshing around.... nobody comes out of this fight fearing this two time undisputed champ who has getting his ass kicked as such...I mean if we being serious francis ngannou beat fury wayyyy easier, Usyk couldn't even drop the shopworn chinny champ without the refs help, how good is Usyk??

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            • #16
              Originally posted by sbbigmike View Post

              Usyk doesn't even beat the old version of James toney lmfao
              Agreed. James Toney is under that ' Natural Born Fighter ' category along with Eric Morales and many more.

              Toney is such a natural fighter that he can be old, out of shape, and still kick major ass. He is simply an instinctive fighter. Look at his body of work as a HW, it’s mind boggling.

              Usyk can’t beat Toney at any weight.

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              • #17
                For years the Fury fanboys were trolling the boxing history forum insisting he'd blow right through any prior generation of HWs. You can't reach some people, once they decide they are unconditional fans of a fighter logic goes out the window.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Smash View Post
                  fury can be a dosser and is certainly beatable

                  but u cant take away the facts he went to germany and beat long reigning vlad to take his titles
                  40yo Wladimir who looked washed up in his previous fight against Jennings, and who was going through heavy marital problems with his crazy wife, with post partum depression, that finally ended up in divorce

                  Fury just caught Wlad at the right time, he was shopworn physically and out of there mentally.

                  Who the hell can concentrate in a fight when your wife is inches away from killing herself or/ and your baby?

                  Nor to mention Fury was most likely on PEDs against Wlad, got suspended and ran away like a ***** from the rematch

                  Fury was always overrated, and definetly a con-man who fooled a lot of people into thinking he was greater than he was

                  Ali, Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Vitali, Prime Wlad and others would have beaten the **** outta ¨fists of fluff¨ Fury

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by lopetego View Post

                    40yo Wladimir who looked washed up in his previous fight against Jennings, and who was going through heavy marital problems with his crazy wife, with post partum depression, that finally ended up in divorce

                    Fury just caught Wlad at the right time, he was shopworn physically and out of there mentally.

                    Who the hell can concentrate in a fight when your wife is inches away from killing herself or/ and your baby?

                    Nor to mention Fury was most likely on PEDs against Wlad, got suspended and ran away like a ***** from the rematch

                    Fury was always overrated, and definetly a con-man who fooled a lot of people into thinking he was greater than he was

                    Ali, Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Vitali, Prime Wlad and others would have beaten the **** outta ¨fists of fluff¨ Fury
                    sounds like u are not a big fan of fury lol

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                    • #20
                      Fury had had the success he's had because of his dimensions. But he's not a special talent. Many feel if Fury didn't have those advantages in height and reach he'd not have had half the success he's had

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