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  • #41
    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post


    its a fair point. Its a shame BJS was so unprofessional and inactive, most fighters would kill for his natural ability. I really think he is a wasted talent. I think with more discipline he would've been a truly top fighter.

    As for Fury, its hard to say, of course things will catch up with him. But he's also a bit weird, he really had no business getting back to this level after being over 400lbs but he did. His last performance was shockingly bad and it could be an indication he's really declined quickly, but he looked fine in the fights before that, so who knows. We know he can look poor and then really turn it on for his biggest challenges. We'll see tomorrow.

    What i will say is if Fury looks good tomorrow, I still think he's only got a couple of good fights in him. I actually think the same for Usyk too, he's coming up 38, even the guys that look after themselves well can age quickly. I thought he looked a bit older in the Dubois fight, aside from the shot he went down with, legal or not, I don't really think he looked quite as sharp, dubois is just a quitter. I actually thought he was better in the first AJ fight than the second, could that be a regression in sharpness? he's not young, he's had a long career, amateur and pro, lots of camps. Everyone is in decline after 35, just some slowly and some rapidly. Nobody is getting better in their late 30s. boxing history tells us that.

    You mentioned Beterbiev, he might be 39, but a part of still looking good is the opposition. Would you be surprised to suddenly see him look around 40 vs Bivol? I know I wouldn't l. All it takes is the right opponent.


    Beterbiev has faced fast movers and boxers though. I can’t recall the last time Fury faced a great “Boxer” aside from maybe Wlad who was the worst of the Klits

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    • #42
      Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

      Just found out myself. Off by 10lbs. 223

      Oh... LOL... Doesn't change the probable outcome though ....

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      • #43
        Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

        Beterbiev has faced fast movers and boxers though. I can’t recall the last time Fury faced a great “Boxer” aside from maybe Wlad who was the worst of the Klits
        Goes both ways though

        We have absolutely no idea how Usyk deals with a huge guy that knows how to use his reach, maybe its his kryptinite, nobody can say as we've never seen it. Its just pure guess work as it stands. We've heard he was good sparring Wlad but he's fighting a guy who clowned Wlad at the long game.

        People also act like Usyk has just cruised through every opponent. The Briedis fight could've gone either way, I had it a draw like many others did. Neither guy is unbeatable. People have this vision of Usyk like he's some unbeatable talent like they did with Loma and we've seen that's not true.

        Usyk is a lot more hittable than people wanna admit too. go watch the Chisora fight in the 2nd or 3rd round, slow Chisora was landing flush shots. AJ had his face busted up in the first fight. Dubois should've arguably had a KO win, some refs would've been fine with it. Bellew was tagging him. Briedis was landing a lot on him and probably the more effective punches in the fight. He's not the defensive wizard people think, I've been saying that on here before he ever fought at heavyweight

        They're all beatable, Fury included. I think Usyk is excellent, he clearly is, I just feel he's more beatable than people admit, and certainly not as defensively good as they say, people act like hes elusive. He has a good chin, he's had to show it many times
        Last edited by deathofaclown; 05-17-2024, 06:10 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by mike1010011 View Post
          Fury looked like he doesn't have an ounce of muscle on him.
          True he looks like went on low protein diet to make weight and has zero muscle tone. If I hadn't seen him look like this in the past and win I would think his chin would be gone from coming into the fight "dead".

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          • #45
            Fury took this fight seriously he looks in great shape , Usyk also looked phenomenal ............Gonna be good

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            • #46
              Originally posted by mike1010011 View Post
              Fury looked like he doesn't have an ounce of muscle on him.
              Living in a cave? He always looks like this. Even flabbier at times

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              • #47
                Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
                Living in a cave? He always looks like this. Even flabbier at times
                Look at the wilder fights in which he was in the 270's. He had noticably more muscle packed on his upper body,which helped him manhandle wilder in the pocket. His arms are much thinner this time around.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                  He was 254 against wallin and yet he still couldn’t get away from him….now he is older , has far more mileage , suffered severe cuts and was lucky he wasn’t stopped…walllin was southpaw and so is usyk except usyk is a different galaxy to wallin….make no mistake if fury did pull this off then he is undoubtedly the best heavyweight in the world and I’m from the U.K. and of course I should be rooting for him but he behaves like such a twat it’s difficult to cheer for him.

                  This by far the best fighter fury has ever faced and I think fury knows it…..you have not seen the best of usyk and I think tomorrow you will see just how good he is.
                  selling a fight is being a twat nowadays lol if they both behaved like cub scouts and the same character then there wont be too much hype for the fight. Fury brought back the attention to the heavyweights and made it entertaining again after like 10 years of boringness. Sometimes people really can’t see behind the persona these celebs are trying to portray but if you listen closely ive heard more insightful things fury shared over the years than any boxer i followed actually. His serious interviews are deep and articulate… reason why i’ve been a fan actually before i even saw him fight.

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