manny on african american fighters

[WhoreUs]

Well if its not manny then it seems like his team/promoters don't want him up against that top of fighter just when you look at his past.

up until last year it hasn't been an issue.

there were few , if any , african-american in the top 10 at 122-130 the years pacquiao was there.

last year when he fought at 135/140/147 then there were african-americans in the division.

since the plan is to fight mayweather and/or mosley then any argument is moot.

the only reason cotto gets a shot before mayweather/mosley is because cotto is top rank (which is to arum's benefit)

[shogun1123]

Manny on AA fighters, let me see........Stay away from them..... I don't think Manny wants to avoid them, AA fighters thats is. But Roach and his managers know the deal.

Same as with the great Mexican fighters, their handlers TRY to avoid good AA fighters at all cost. This is not a racial comment, it is just a fact, thats not a secret to the real boxing insiders.

Good AA fighters don't like getting hit, so they train not to. When you train not to get hit you usually don't get hit that much.

In the AA boxing World it's "hit and not get hit is the name of the game"

AA fighters tend to have the better footwork in the boxing game. Good footwork allows you to be elusive and at the same time mount a credible attack. What Rahim did to Morales is just one example of what I am talking about.

[firstborn]

Without getting caught up in the racial issue, Pac does tend to avoid figthers that are elusive, doesnt matter the race. Slick boxer come in every race, for example Sergio Martinez is a pretty slick boxer and he's Hispanic. Different weight class but you get the point.

[gqjohnb]

up until last year it hasn't been an issue.

there were few , if any , african-american in the top 10 at 122-130 the years pacquiao was there.

last year when he fought at 135/140/147 then there were african-americans in the division.

since the plan is to fight mayweather and/or mosley then any argument is moot.

the only reason cotto gets a shot before mayweather/mosley is because cotto is top rank (which is to arum's benefit)

I agree that cotto's shot being first has a lot to do with being a Top Rank fighter but it also has to do with his style. I've heard of a couple of guys that his camp avoided namely zahir raheem but thats just heresay and i haven't looked into but I think you would have to admit that his camp has been avoiding more slick mobile fighters and I don't get a strong desire for them to put pac in the ring with mayweather from their statements in the press. I read about them throwing mosley in as one of pac's possible opponents but I have to call BS on that there would be very little benefit for pac or Arum from that matchup but hey this is just what I've observed from the outside looking in.

[gqjohnb]

Without getting caught up in the racial issue, Pac does tend to avoid figthers that are elusive, doesnt matter the race. Slick boxer come in every race, for example Sergio Martinez is a pretty slick boxer and he's Hispanic. Different weight class but you get the point.

Yeah thats what I'm getting at not just African American fighters but just slick more mobile fighters in general.

[WhoreUs]

I agree that cotto's shot being first has a lot to do with being a Top Rank fighter but it also has to do with his style. I've heard of a couple of guys that his camp avoided namely zahir raheem but thats just heresay and i haven't looked into but I think you would have to admit that his camp has been avoiding more slick mobile fighters and I don't get a strong desire for them to put pac in the ring with mayweather from their statements in the press. I read about them throwing mosley in as one of pac's opponents but I have to call BS on that there would be very little benefit for pac or Arum from that matchup but hey this is just what I've observed from the outside looking in.

zahir raheem was a 135 fighter.

pacquiao didn't move to 135 'til last year.

that crap you heard is from idiots that didn't know what was going on 3-4 years ago.

they assume manny was suppose to fight raheem after raheem beat morales.

that's not true. morales was trying out 135 and fought raheem as a tuneup. it wasn't an eliminator. it wasn't a tournament.

if velazquez had beat pacquiao (pacquiao fought velazquez as a tuneup on the same card) he wouldn't have gotten a fight with morales.

[WhoreUs]

Manny on AA fighters, let me see........Stay away from them..... I don't think Manny wants to avoid them, AA fighters thats is. But Roach and his managers know the deal.

Same as with the great Mexican fighters, their handlers TRY to avoid good AA fighters at all cost. This is not a racial comment, it is just a fact, thats not a secret to the real boxing insiders.

Good AA fighters don't like getting hit, so they train not to. When you train not to get hit you usually don't get hit that much.

In the AA boxing World it's "hit and not get hit is the name of the game"

AA fighters tend to have the better footwork in the boxing game. Good footwork allows you to be elusive and at the same time mount a credible attack. What Rahim did to Morales is just one example of what I am talking about.

african-american is not a boxing style.

all african-americans don't fight the same way , dumbass.

[johncods]

racist.

he's black and american. that automatically means he's slick.

he's so slick he doesn't even need to keep his hands up.

LMAO.. What a clown...

[shogun1123]

I though Cotto had great footwork when he first came on the scene. He has not displayed it much in his recent fights over the last few years. But I still think his footwork is very good when he uses it. I think his footwork will be a big factor in the PACMAN fight. ROACH has been working on PACMAN's footwork. But PACMAN just does not look very natural when he tries to display his footwork.

[gqjohnb]

zahir raheem was a 135 fighter.

pacquiao didn't move to 135 'til last year.

that crap you heard is from idiots that didn't know what was going on 3-4 years ago.

they assume manny was suppose to fight raheem after raheem beat morales.

that's not true. morales was trying out 135 and fought raheem as a tuneup. it wasn't an eliminator. it wasn't a tournament.

if velazquez had beat pacquiao (pacquiao fought velazquez as a tuneup on the same card) he wouldn't have gotten a fight with morales.

Awe alright... yeah i won't fully stand by a fact unless I know definitively that its true.