Longest REIGN of TOP LINEAL WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONS of LAST 30 YEARS !!

[Roger Mellie]

A better question is,
Why are you voluntary in another one of my threads?
If you dont like what I am writing about?
In addition this is not a Mayweather thread.
This is a thread showing the Longest REIGN of TOP LINEAL WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONS of LAST 30 YEARS...
I have made no argument in my orginal post...Just gave the stats..

You never actually answer a straight question or even show the balls to read between the lines do you? Your thread may not have specifically mentioned mayweather,but as if by magic he just happened to appear in it!

I voluntarily entered the thread so I could take the piss out of you and tell you to f.uck off with all this boatbuyer bollocks.

[Roger Mellie]

in what way?
Speed
Defense
Offense
Technical Skill
Foot Work

In what way is he a superior fighter?

Every way possible.

[jrosales13]

A better question is,
Why are you voluntary in another one of my threads?
If you dont like what I am writing about?
In addition this is not a Mayweather thread.
This is a thread showing the Longest REIGN of TOP LINEAL WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONS of LAST 30 YEARS...
I have made no argument in my orginal post...Just gave the stats..

You should make a thead on who won the WW LINEAL CHAMPIONSHIP. And, never defended it against a top 10 WW. And, let see how many names you come up with?

[Horus]

Leonard argubly fought 3 of the greatest top50 fighters of all time. Leonard was inactive for 3yrs cameback when up in weight and in his first fight back fought THE MW Champion. You can not compare the two.

You can compared the two.
You cant hold it against floyd that he didnt fight in SRL era.
SRL had the luxary of having greats in his era, and also had the luxary of having boxing as a mainstream sport in his era.
Floyd doesnt, and doesnt.
So you cant compare opponents.
But what you can compare is skill.

Offense= SRL
Defense= Mayweather
Technical Skill= Tie
Footwork= Tie
Ring Generalship = Tie
Place in their era's: 1ST


Boxing is a sport that has a 125 year history. It is the oldest major surviving sport.

When you go into the HOF , it is not just the greatest fighters of all time. It is the greatest fighters who were the greatest in their time. It is a tribute to the boxers who have gone before, and to those who have strived to reach the standard their predecessors have set.

Fighters are judged On How they dominated their eras and where they ranked in their era.

Floyd didnt fight in Ali Era
Floyd didnt Fight in SRR Era
Floyd didnt fight in SRL Era

You can only fairly judge him on how he stood in his era.

And in Floyd's Era He stood of top of the Mountain the longest.
and Achieved more then anybody in his era .

You cant just have fanasty senerio's and put floyd in different era's and hold it against him like your fanasty is actual reality.
It doesnt work that way.

[Horus]

I would say Leonard has the better handspeed, offense and technical skills and offensive footwork. Floyd has the better defense and defensive footwork.

Overall I would say Leonard is the superior fighter.

Offense= SRL
Defense= Mayweather
Technical Skill= Tie
Footwork= Tie
Ring Generalship = Tie
Places in their era's: 1ST

[Horus]

Every way possible.

right..

[jrosales13]

Floyd didnt fight in Ali Era
Floyd didnt Fight in SRR Era
Floyd didnt fight in SRL Era

Ali argubly fought against 6 of the greatest top 20 HW of all time. And, fought against argubly 4 of the top 50 greatest fighters of all time.

SRR fought the best fighters at WW, fought the best fighter at MW, and fought the best fighter at LHW. SRR fought against argubly 3 of the top 50 greatest fighters of all time.

SRL fought the best WW. Left no doubt on who the best WW was. SRL after a 3yr layoff fought the best MW. SRL fought against argubly 3 of the top 50 greatest fighters of all time.

Floyd never fought 2 of the best 130lbs while he was there (Freitas, Casamayor)
Floyd never fought 3 of the best 135lbs while he was there (Spadafora, Johnston, Dorin).
Floyd never fought 4 of the best 140lbs while he was there (Tzsyu, Hatton, Harris, Witter)
Floyd never fought the best 147lbs or the best 154lbs fighters while he was there either.

Again You can not compare Floyd to fighters who are ATG.

[istmeno]

floyds "reign" lasted 20 months and one fight. that being against a 140 lb fighter.
the fight with baldomir was not part of his reign, neither was the fight with oscar at 154

[Horus]

Ali argubly fought against 6 of the greatest top 20 HW of all time. And, fought against argubly 4 of the top 50 greatest fighters of all time.

SRR fought the best fighters at WW, fought the best fighter at MW, and fought the best fighter at LHW. SRR fought against argubly 3 of the top 50 greatest fighters of all time.

SRL fought the best WW. Left no doubt on who the best WW was. SRL after a 3yr layoff fought the best MW. SRL fought against argubly 3 of the top 50 greatest fighters of all time.

Floyd never fought 2 of the best 130lbs while he was there (Freitas, Casamayor)
Floyd never fought 3 of the best 135lbs while he was there (Spadafora, Johnston, Dorin).
Floyd never fought 4 of the best 140lbs while he was there (Tzsyu, Hatton, Harris, Witter)
Floyd never fought the best 147lbs or the best 154lbs fighters while he was there either.

Again You can not compare Floyd to fighters who are ATG.

YOU obviously have no sense of history.

130 Lineal Champion

Mayweather is Considered the Greatest Ever at 130 by almost everybody.
Boxrec.com Has also RATED Mayweather the TOP 130 Pounder Ever Too:
http://www.boxrec.com/ratings.php?co...us=E&SUBMIT=Go

HERE IS WHY ALMOST EVERYBODY CONSIDERS MAYWEATHER THE GREATEST FIGHTER EVER AT 130:
Mayweather clean out 130.

130: Super Featherweight

The Top Four Recognized Fighters Were:
Genaro Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Roberto Garcia
Diego Corrales


At Mayweather First Division at 130,He Dominated the Division.
He was Knocking out all top Contenders.

• To the Point that after only 2 years turning PRO He was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Division

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1998

He Fought Genaro Hernandez who was 38-1-1 2 time World Champion. And The Reigning WBC world Champion. And The Ring Magazine Recognize World Champion of The Division.Who only Lost came from Oscar De La Hoya in which Oscar broke his in several places. .Which Happen 3 years Earlier

In that Fight Floyd Dominated the Recognize Champion at 130. and Officially Became

• The WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.

...
not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but The Official Recognize WBC world Champion at 21 years old. And Now Recognize as The Ring Magazine number # 1 fighter in the division at 21 years old
and #8 on P4P list out of all the fighters in the world.

His Next Fight right After that Fight,Mayweather beat the guy who was RANKED number #4 ( Angel Manfredy) , And In that fight Mayweather Knocks Him Out in the 2nd.Round.

Now Mayweather had now beaten 2 out of the top 4 fighters in the 130 division. all before the age Of 22.And the 3rd of those 4 fighters was

• (Roberto Garcia who was 31-0 with 23 Knock Outs.)

And Floyd was about to fight Roberto Garcia, but Roberto Garcia decided to fight Knock Out Artist and Another P4P Phenomenal fighter in Diego Corrales.. Who out of 33 fights to that Point. only 5 fighters didnt get Knock Out.

Roberto Garcia was knock out in the 7th Round by Corrales. Now Instead of Floyd Fighting Roberto Garica, he nows finds himself in the position
of fighting the #5 Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport, and then #1 fighter at 130...Diego Corrales.

and In that Fight Floyd was a 2 to 1 Underdog, to not only lose to Corrales.But to get Knock out.

Floyd fights Corrales, The #5 P4P fighter in the sport and #1 fighter in the division, and in the fight compellingly outclassed
and Knocks out Diego Corrales in a 10 round 1 sided fight.

After that Floyd Completely Clean out the 130 Division with 8 title defenses, with 6 of those fights ending in Knock out.

• Floyd at 130 now can not get a big name fighter to fight him from Featherweight to Lightweight.

NOBODY..and when big name fighters did get approach about fighting Mayweather, they either demand a 55-45 split, or didnt return the call. So Floyd started calling out all the big names Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, everybody.
But Nobody wanted to fight. So instead of staying at 130 where no other big names will fight him at. He moves Up.

And his first fight was against the number # 1 guy at 135 JLC.

UNLESS YOU LEARN SOME ACTUAL HISTORY ON MAYWEATHER...DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT MAYWEATHER.. STICK WITH COMMENTARY...
I WILL DO THE FACTS

[Pretty Boy Greg]

Lol..damn horus...you just sparked a flame...here come the floyd haters

haha agree! nice post though horus!! green for you bud!!!