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  • Regge
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    #11
    This Turki guy seems to be in bed with Crawford.

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    • boxing IQ
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      #12
      Originally posted by Spartacus26
      Malignaggi and Chris are wrong. Crawford was knocked down by Mean machine, the referee just didn't make it official. Both Crawford and Inoue are effective, efficient and get the job done. However what separates them is one crucial area and that is overcoming adversity. Being in a dog fight where the other guy doesn't cooperate and us bringing the PAIN Right back at you. Inoue passed that crucial test against a still formidable Donaire. He fought through a fractured eye socket and broken nose! And WON. Crawford hasnt had that kind of opponent yet. A declining burnt out Errol Spence and a shot Porter ready to retire and a been shot Kellbrook don't count. Inoue gets to be no. 1 P4P Because overcoming adversity is the TRUTH TELLER as to whether a fighter is the real goods. And why do I sense an AMERICAN bias here especially since Inoue has done the same as Crawford but against fighters who are in their Primes and not damaged and is a better puncher??
      100% agree on the knockdown, but that kind of adds to your point. The thing with Crawford is that there is such a disparity in skill level between him and his opponents that he hasn't really had the opportunity to show us his grit. It's not unlike Floyd. We'll see him tested at 154 for sure though.

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      • Pac=Duran
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        #13
        Originally posted by dannnnn
        The thing is, Inoue has had three fights in the same time span that Crawford has had one. You shouldn't be rewarded for sitting on the sidelines imo. The Spence win was great but you can't dine out on that forever.

        Crawford could have already fought Ennis (or a top guy at 154lbs) since the Spence fight. Instead, he acts like he's too good for that fight, it's beneath him, we are barely worthy to see him box etc. Well, Inoue would have taken that fight and probably another one on top, and that's the difference between them - that's why Inoue is pound-for-pound number one.
        Its very close but activity plays a role yeah.

        I put usyk crawford and inoue all at the top.

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        • messi807
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          #14
          Originally posted by Spartacus26
          Malignaggi and Chris are wrong. Crawford was knocked down by Mean machine, the referee just didn't make it official. Both Crawford and Inoue are effective, efficient and get the job done. However what separates them is one crucial area and that is overcoming adversity. Being in a dog fight where the other guy doesn't cooperate and us bringing the PAIN Right back at you. Inoue passed that crucial test against a still formidable Donaire. He fought through a fractured eye socket and broken nose! And WON. Crawford hasnt had that kind of opponent yet. A declining burnt out Errol Spence and a shot Porter ready to retire and a been shot Kellbrook don't count. Inoue gets to be no. 1 P4P Because overcoming adversity is the TRUTH TELLER as to whether a fighter is the real goods. And why do I sense an AMERICAN bias here especially since Inoue has done the same as Crawford but against fighters who are in their Primes and not damaged and is a better puncher??
          I mean.. this is delusion at its finest, I still can’t believe what you just wrote. Pure emotion and personal bias towards Inoue, but that’s okay. Just don’t act like you’re being objective.

          ‘Crawford has never fought anyone like Donaire’ who was 3-2 in his past 5 bouts and 36 years old leading up to the Inoue bout. Give me a break. This is comedy. I bet if Crawford fought Pacquiao and had a fractured eye socket and broken nose you wouldn’t blink twice to take him out the #1 spot. Bias is just so visible. Everyone will remember the Spence win, they still speak about it a year later an elite win over a top 5 P4P. Nobody talks about the Donaire fights.

          ”Overcoming adversity is the truth teller as to whether a fighter is real goods”

          Nonsense. When did Golovkin or Uysk fight adversity when they were P4P #1 or even Floyd.
          Come up with a better argument and maybe RING, ESPN, BWAA, TBRB will consider Inoue for no.1.

          “Inoue a better puncher”

          Yet Bud is on a better KO streak..

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            #15
            Inoue ducking Crawford ! Do it at a catchweight ! Lol Jk ! Once USA Boxing was the best,now nah .The rest of the world caught up but some Americans like living in the past.
            Last edited by TonyRespectful; 05-07-2024, 02:12 PM.

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              #16
              Sorry,I don't care how much money Turki has,it's pretty obvious he doesn't know **** about boxing. He's willing to pay Crawford to go up to 168 for canelo,and wants bivol or Artur to jump up 25 lbs to fight at cruiser,but won't pay Crawford to fight boots,or canelo to fight David. Casual with a ton of money.

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              • Smash
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                #17
                "but it seems there are some personal opinions and inaccuracies involved​"

                yes turki thats how the p4p list is made up of
                everyones p4p list is accurate in their minds as its their opinions as is yours accurate in your mind


                "I believe that boxing needs one entity to evaluate with transparency and credibility. Soon, I will support a project for that matter​"

                so u want to make your list the offiical list basically, lets just call it Turkis p4p list so
                Turki is showing that in his position in life in saudi he gets what he wants & maybe showing thats how we roll in saudi

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                • factsarenice
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                  #18
                  *liar alert * "Inoue holds the No. 1 position on many pundits’ pound-for-pound rankings," *liar alert * Not true, slipped in a false statement. The truth is the vast number of analysts trainers and fighters consider Crawford the No. 1 position on many pundits’ pound-for-pound rankings. ​
                  Last edited by factsarenice; 05-07-2024, 06:18 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by messi807

                    I mean.. this is delusion at its finest, I still can’t believe what you just wrote. Pure emotion and personal bias towards Inoue, but that’s okay. Just don’t act like you’re being objective.

                    ‘Crawford has never fought anyone like Donaire’ who was 3-2 in his past 5 bouts and 36 years old leading up to the Inoue bout. Give me a break. This is comedy. I bet if Crawford fought Pacquiao and had a fractured eye socket and broken nose you wouldn’t blink twice to take him out the #1 spot. Bias is just so visible. Everyone will remember the Spence win, they still speak about it a year later an elite win over a top 5 P4P. Nobody talks about the Donaire fights.

                    ”Overcoming adversity is the truth teller as to whether a fighter is real goods”

                    Nonsense. When did Golovkin or Uysk fight adversity when they were P4P #1 or even Floyd.
                    Come up with a better argument and maybe RING, ESPN, BWAA, TBRB will consider Inoue for no.1.

                    “Inoue a better puncher”

                    Yet Bud is on a better KO streak..
                    What choice do fans have? It was his last fight FFS.

                    Know why people don't talk about the Donaire fight? Because Inoue has had 8 fights since then.

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                      #20
                      - Crawford has the weakest resume out of all the top 5 guys.
                      - He is inactive.
                      - He cherry picks his opponents.
                      - He was knocked down by a midlevel fighter.

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