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  • #11
    Nothing against Haney, and find his Dad entertaining. Not concerned about the win going to an NC. I've just never seen a fighter react like Garcia to a positive drugs test, no hiding, no lawyer's statement, his demeanor comes off as authentic, plausible.
    Last edited by Weebler I; 05-04-2024, 07:32 PM.
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    • #12
      Originally posted by mromano View Post
      Because its easy to ingest the banned substance found in his positive result. 1. By being spiked. 2. Neglecting to know which supplements contained the banned substance. I also highly doubt the PED was the reason Devin was hit with the same punch over and over. Haney had no plan and thought Ryan was going to be easy. Either way, I still fault Ryan for his ignorance.
      You can argue that but people aren't machines. The sheer power of another fighter can make it harder to even stay focused on your game plan and make you too uncomfortable to think. Not to mention we don't really know if Ryan cheating on the scales and now with PEDs in his system gave him enough power and punch resistance to bulldoze through Haney's punches more so than he otherwise would have been able to had it been fair.

      Yes, Haney has flaws, just like Garcia. But would those flaws have been so consequential if Haney didn't have to drain himself 3 extra pounds than Garcia did and do so without a PED boost? These are questions we'll never know, which is why you don't cheat in the first and create all of these woulda, shoulda, coulda inquires. If the fight wasn't determined by power and punch resistance, such as pot shoting and jabbing all night and winning on points, then I could understand. But it was determined entirely by power and punch resistance which exactly plays in to the weight and PED advantage Garcia had. Seems a bit disingenuous to then suggest that Garcia's advantages had nothing to do with him winning.
      Last edited by Gate keeper; 05-04-2024, 08:21 PM.

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      • #13
        You’re never going to get an honest assessment in boxing because there is too much dck riding.
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        • #14
          Im not sure people are defending PED use so much as defending the right to B sample testing and Ryans right to defend himself. Noone is saying that he should be allowed to fight on the juice...they are saying they dont think he took it.....or at least not intentionally. Where there is room for error.. there is room for doubt. Money and power is always going to bring controversy to a dirty sport like boxing. Lets enjoy the fact we got a fight and a winner. Haneys chin was always considered soft. Garcias left was always consideted powerful. None of thoae facts changed. Haney didnt complain after the fight that Ryan seemed in any way different....and he acknowledged he got outhustled. Its too late for him or his team to change the narrative.

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          • #15
            I'm not justifying his actions at all,and a cheater is a cheater. That being said,Haney has a style that makes watching paint dry seem like sky diving, in addition to the fact that his primary form of defence is hugging his opponent and sniffing their crotch. But the Haney's shouldn't complain too much,since Allah has a plan for everyone,and probably wanted to humble or test Devin to make him a better person and fighter.

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            • #16
              On this website, the only poster I’ve seen vehemently defending Garcia is the poster Regge. Regge is the alt of the banned poster Trey Shaw and has been banned here many times for making racist posts and that’s why Regge defends him. If a black/white/asian fighter did what Garcia did, Regge the racist would be calling for a public hanging.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by just the facts View Post
                On this website, the only poster I’ve seen vehemently defending Garcia is the poster Regge. Regge is the alt of the banned poster Trey Shaw and has been banned here many times for making racist posts and that’s why Regge defends him. If a black/white/asian fighter did what Garcia did, Regge the racist would be calling for a public hanging.
                Trey Shaw the dude with the SRR avi yeah?

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                • #18
                  Roids are overrated

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                  • #19
                    Haney fans still in the 5 stages of grief. Its unfortunate. Your boy was knocked out cold and saved by the ref and had a criminal judge that had a draw. No amount of help can rewrite the brain damage Garcia gave Haney.

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                    • #20
                      Who is really defending him?

                      Anyway I just think it's ****** if Ryan was juicing. He only fought in momemts anyway and has power regardless of PED's and Haney hasn't got a great chin. I don't think he needed PED's for the fight to play out the way it did. Its not like he had high workrate or needs help with his left hook power to hurt Haney.

                      ruined his own win when he already had the tools to fight the way he did.

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