Fight Plans: Cotto vs. Pac, (Intelligent posts only)

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  • Hitman18
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    Fight Plans: Cotto vs. Pac, (Intelligent posts only)

    How will Cotto beat Pac or vice versa? (note: this post is not meant in anyway shape or form to arouse flaming)

    For Cotto over Pac: I think Cotto will have to target Pacs body early of course, but at the same time he will have to be extremely cautious and just get a feel for pacs speed. He will need to stick to the jab, test his own reflexes and movement and get comfortable before he even utilizes any meaningful punches. Hes just gonna jab jab jab until he gets comfortable to pacs speed, then around round 3 or 4 he'll start hitting the body and wooing the crowd with some short uppercuts and left hooks up top after hitting the body first. But before he starts uppercutting and left hooking, I think hes going to throw lots of lead right hands and really surprise pac. He shouldn't throw any wide or trading shots, unless they're to the body. I see a very competitive, close fight through rounds 4-10 with Cotto working the body and lots of short shots upstairs and alot of lead rights. Around 11-12 I see cotto wearing down heavily and having to back peddle and box and avoid pacquiao to pull off a decision.

    For Pacquiao over Cotto: Pac will come out blazing about 2 min into the first round testing Cotto's resolve early on as he always does. He will come in, **** **** with the right hook-straight left hand and jump out. I also see him doing a switcheroo and ****ing cotto to the body with the right hook and then leaping to his right to set up the left straight. From rounds 1-2 hes just quickly moving in n out with his usual little compact combos, confusing cotto and making him realize he's too fast. through rounds 3-9 pac rips cottos face up tearing open his lip, and left eye. Through these rounds he will either Ko cotto by having him on the ropes and tearing him up causing the ref to step in or stop the fight due to cuts. If he doesn't ko him then I see cotto basically running backwards taking punishment til the final bell.

    Notes:
    1. These plans are assuming that Pacquiao doesn't blitz and KO cotto right away within the first couples rounds like he did Hatton due to 2 things: Cottos weak chin and the possibility of weight drain.

    2. I myself as a boxing fan, Want Cotto to win, WAR COTTO!!!

    3. My actual prediction of the fight: Pac beats Cotto either to quick knockout like hatton or on cuts from midfight on.

    Your plans/thoughts/predictions? Please no fighting or ****** comments. Thank you
  • El Angel
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    Cotto TKO 11. I think Cotto gets to him later. His physicality and body punching will wear Pacquiao down. I do think it will take a round or two for Cotto to adjust to Pacquiao's speed. He must pump the jab and the work the body early and often. I think Pacquiao will have to fight off his back foot something he is not used to doing. Pacquiao will give Cotto a tough fight. Around the 11th, Cotto will hurt Pacquiao with straight right and drop him. Pacquiao, from all the body work Cotto's done and having to back up constantly, will be pretty worn out. He gets up and the ref steps in and stops it.

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    • Matt Marvelous
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      Wow, a Cotto fan who thinks Pac will KO him. Nice.

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      • Hitman18
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        Originally posted by El Angel
        Cotto TKO 11. I think Cotto gets to him later. His physicality and body punching will wear Pacquiao down. I do think it will take a round or two for Cotto to adjust to Pacquiao's speed. He must pump the jab and the work the body early and often. I think Pacquiao will have to fight off his back foot something he is not used to doing. Pacquiao will give Cotto a tough fight. Around the 11th, Cotto will hurt Pacquiao with straight right and drop him. Pacquiao, from all the body work Cotto's done and having to back up constantly, will be pretty worn out. He gets up and the ref steps in and stops it.
        But Pac's never really been hurt other than early in his career when he wasn't ****. But now hes professional and been in there and hit by the toughest and I've never really seen him hurt other than that nice right hand, left-hook combo by Marquez in the 2nd fight. Do you really see him being hurt, even stopped? I guess the extra weight by an opponent who's not a punching bag could hurt him, but I just dont see it happening. And what do you think about the catch weight? Don't you think that will slow and weaken Cotto significantly?
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        • Bhopreign
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          Although he fights orthodox, the natural left handed Cotto understands the footwork of a southpaw and wont find cutting off the ring hard against Pacquaio. Pacquiao looks to counter hooks with straight punches so Cotto's gameplan will be to establish his jab, when Pac tries to counter it he will be met often with Cotto countering himself, sometimes up top, sometimes to the body. Cotto should win this fight.

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          • Navyboxer1109
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            For Cotto...The Jab, timing is everything, and to frustrate the speed prone fighter, the jab is paramount. Capitlizing on wild punches from manny (the awrkward left hook that leaves the midsection open), and definitely closing the distance, pressuring and using his superior punching power on the inside, because if Manny gets a rythim going from the outside, it's over by points. Cotto needs to keep his hands up ata side angle, where the punches will hit forearms, and the the uppercut will hit elbows. Cotto also needs to take a firm stance and not move backwards as much as in his last few fights, simply because Manny's Good coming forward, and even though Cotto has decent counterpunching skills, they may be to no effect if he's on the back peddle, and trying to time manny. It won't work.

            For Manny...speed at awkward angles, get a decent jab going, and simply try to stay away from exchanges on the inside with the heavier handed Cotto. Manny needs to have excellent lateral head movement, and move towards Cotto's right, constantly, to stay away from Cotto's hard left hook. Manny needs to throw punches in bunches (only if he's certain he can do it without getting into an inside brawl), and use boxing skills that he has, but has refused to use in the past, because of his well known dislike for being hit. Cotto's jab may frustrate him into making the mistake of forsaking caution for the chance to get some good licks in, and that can prove fatal in this fight.

            IMO, Cotto takes it in the 10th or 11th round only if manny forgets to box and decides to brawl. Manny takes it if Cotto starts to backpeddle without jabbing constantly, because Manny will switch into Hunter Killer mode and track him down for either a barrage of points, or a KO.

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            • El Angel
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              Originally posted by Hitman18
              But Pac's never really been hurt other than early in his career when he wasn't ****. But now hes professional and been in there and hit by the toughest and I've never really seen him hurt other than that nice right hand, left-hook combo by Marquez in the 2nd fight. Do you really see him being hurt, even stopped? I guess the extra weight by an opponent who's not a punching bag could hurt him, but I just dont see it happening. And what do you think about the catch weight? Don't you think that will slow and weaken Cotto significantly?
              Cotto's size strength will factor in greatly I believe. Hatton kept lunging in and Pac timed him and caught him. De La Hoya and Diaz were too slow to both Manny. Cotto has underrated hand speed IMO. 145 shouldn't bother Cotto, but you never know. I think he'll be fine. He weighed 146 for Clottey and looked healthy. I can see Cotto landing a straight right on him and Manny going down. I think Cotto hits harder than any opponent Manny has fought before.

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              • Bhopreign
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                Originally posted by Hitman18
                But Pac's never really been hurt other than early in his career when he wasn't ****. But now hes professional and been in there and hit by the toughest and I've never really seen him hurt other than that nice right hand, left-hook combo by Marquez in the 2nd fight. Do you really see him being hurt, even stopped? I guess the extra weight by an opponent who's not a punching bag could hurt him, but I just dont see it happening. And what do you think about the catch weight? Don't you think that will slow and weaken Cotto significantly?
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                Pac was almost stopped by Larios in the 3rd, Marquez hurt him also in the second fight.

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                • cuzfozzy
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                  Pac will try to box him ... Hatton was a completely different situation
                  because Roach had to get Hatton out of there otherwise it would be
                  12 rounds of hugging spoiling ....... with Cotto I think they will
                  box and try to win a decision ...

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                  • -EX-
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                    I think I'll only need to see the first round or two to see how the fight may go...

                    If the speed difference is very large I think Cotto may lose...



                    If Cotto can't cut off the ring he's in trouble...if he can't go to Pac's body he's in trouble...

                    Cotto will have his moments tho cuz Pac likes to mix it up and Pac isn't difficult to hit.......it will also be interesting to see how Pac reacts to getting hit by a real welterweight...

                    My money's on Pacquiao but Cotto can win this fight...and I hope he does

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