Comments Thread For: Trainer Ben Davison Wants Oleksandr Usyk, Not Tyson Fury, For Joshua

[crimsonfalcon07]

Usyk was bought on board as undisputed name from a lower weight division to look good on Joshua's resume and it backfired . Usyk's defining moment will come against Fury. We'll have a much better idea of where they all are in the mix in a few weeks.

That's not how it works... The WBO belt comes with the right to challenge the champ a division above as mandatory. Usyk exercised his right to that and fought AJ as WBO mandatory. That's all on record. What's with the stupid narrative about it being about AJ's resume?

[Poopdick]

how many times he gonna get a shot at Usyk? if they fight again soon, Usyk still does 8-4 or 9-3 decision. Joshua just isn't on that skill level

[_Rexy_]

Maybe this version of AJ could beat Usyk if they fought again.

Of course, one mustn't get too carried away with the devastating ko of Ngannou. Usyk is not Ngannou.

Joshua has done very well in his pro career. He's an Olympic gold medalist, although Teddy Atlas says he was there and AJ got a gift decision.

The silver medalist though, an Italian I think he said, did not go on to a successful pro boxing career.

AJ Got a gift in the first round against Savon. He should have never even been in the finals, where he received another gift.

[_Rexy_]

Joshua beat Ruiz Junior easy in the rematch 'Joshua effectively won all of the rounds. Nobody is making excuses'.

Then Joshua lost two competitive fights with Uysk 'And in the second fight, he was the most improved fighter out of the two'.

You keep mentioning these performances from Joshua career 'But you must understand, that there are positives from all of those performances. We know more about Joshua as a fighter than we do with Fury'.

Everyone knows the level of Joshua, he is the most component pure boxer in the division 'Outside of both Fury and Uysk. Joshua is also statistically the most experienced and proven Heavyweight at fighting Elite to World level Heavyweight fighters'.

We have all witnessed how Joshua reacts to a loss? He has avenged loses, and he has immediately been competitive in all rematches 'Joshua's level as a Heavyweight fighter in this era is not a mystery, he is dangerous fighter'.

Note: If the 3rd Joshua vs Uysk fight is called for next for both fighters 'Then you know it, and everyone knows it ? People in mass will be giving Anthony Joshua a serious chance of beating Oleksandr Uysk'.

Former fighters, boxing commentators, the general public 'There will be many people in those demographics which back Joshua in that fight vs Usyk'..

Lets be honest Oregonian, it is getting to the point now 'In this competition between the top 4 Heavyweights'.

People are starting to realize, that Anthony Joshua is gaining momentum. That is why you are speaking, in the manner that you are.

Joshua's critics, if they are honest with themselves 'They are blatantly apprehensive, of Anthony Joshua'.

From what I can see, people want this competition between the top-4 Heavyweights to be over real quick 'They are trying their best to claim a conclusion, before potentially ether Fury or Uysk has to fight Joshua again'.

Joshua was beaten by Uysk twice over the distance in competitive fights, why are people so apprehensive of a potential the third fight? You know why you are apprehensive 'Because Joshua has a serious chance of winning' etc.

Jesus Christ, I really hope they fking pay you for these c0ckworshiping essays


Lets pretend they fight a third time, and AJ improves but still loses 9-3. Does he deserve a fourth fight? How about a fifth?

[MulaKO]

Yeah , that’s what we wanna see
A third instalment so AJ can try again and again
He beat an mma guy and a second tier fighter ffs , that don’t make him any better than what he is
And we all know what he is , Slow Eddie’s fiction character

[NorvernRob]

Usyk has already schooled Princess Joshy twice!!

Why bother with a third time ?

There's nothing to suggest Usyk wouldnt hand Joshua's ass back to him on a platter again.

How about giving Parker a rematch first ?

But all the AJ nuthuggers say hes already beaten him once...lol

Usyk has nothing to prove fighting AJ and neither does Fury if he beats Usyk.

Schooled? So a fairly close fight and then a split decision were ‘schoolings’ that don’t deserve a rematch.

Parker losing at least 10 rounds and being utterly dominated does deserve a rematch though?

I want Fury to beat Usyk so that Fury either runs away and retires or he gets levelled by AJ, who is all wrong for him and he knows it. Fury has never fancied that fight and has talked it down forever.

[Spartacus26]

I see Davies point and it's a valid one. Usyek caught Joshua in between style changes and trainers and also from a mental standpoint, A man trying to find his footing again. And those were not blow out fights where the Ukrainian utterly dominated Joshua. They were competitive and one was a split decision. I've seen many fights over the years where a change in style and the mental approach totally changed the dynamics in rematch.
Joshua is on an uptick now thanks to Davies bringing out his natural mix of aggression and helping to fine tune his game. Usyek is not unbeatable. He is certainly vulnerable to the body which seems to be a real issue for him. He's also getting up there in age. Joshua lost because he tried to play Usyeks game which does not work for him. Usyek had moments where he looked vulnerable and plain average against Chisora. He's not a physically strong man like Evander Holyfield was when he moved up to heavyweight. Joshua has a VERY GOOD chance to beat him in a rubber match if he doesn't wait on Usyek but instead takes the initiative and puts heavy pressure on him and manhandles him as well as let his hands go and with bad intentions. You can't let Usyek get into a groove. You have to take the play away from him and force him to fight at a pace he isn't used to fighting especially now at 37. I can see Joshua winning this with. And should he defeat Usyek I have absolutely zero issue with seeing him take on Parker again. Why not? Both men are on a hot streak of sorts and it would be a fan friendly bout where you have 2 men who are out there to show that they still have a lot more gas in the tank and have the willingness to lay it all on the line. I would have to favor Joshua in this one. He knows Parker and he knows what he has to offer. And I see Joshua just being a better overall fighter than Parker after witnessing their 1st go round and seeing the *****s on Parkers game after his questionable win over Zhang.

[Sparked_26]

They weren't particularly good fights

[EnglishOxide]

Juan Manuel Marquez got 4 shots at Manny Pacquiao but Joshua isn't allowed a third shot at Usyk after clearing out the division?

OK.

Some people man.

[_Rexy_]

Schooled? So a fairly close fight and then a split decision were ‘schoolings’ that don’t deserve a rematch.

Parker losing at least 10 rounds and being utterly dominated does deserve a rematch though?

I want Fury to beat Usyk so that Fury either runs away and retires or he gets levelled by AJ, who is all wrong for him and he knows it. Fury has never fancied that fight and has talked it down forever.

Correct. Because neither fight was actually close.


Unless you're also saying Canelo/Bivol was close because of the scorecards?