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  • #11
    Originally posted by al-Xander View Post
    Is cutting the ring off easier said than done?
    I don't know what Nick Ball could have done any differently. So no, that fight demonstrated it ain't easy. People who say it is are fooling themselves. It's as if the running opponent is just running and not also thinking and fighting and not able to sneak in punches that most times are more devastating.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Yes, very much so.
      You have to find away to NOT let your opponent dictate how he wants you to fight.

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      • #13
        Duh lol..

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        • #14
          It's difficult, but I more think that most of these newer trainers just aren't really good at training guys. They watch a few youtube videos, put a towel around their neck and like to hold pads. But as far as strategy goes? Actual teaching?


          I used to think it was weird that Derrick James website calls him a coach and not a trainer. Then I listened to him in the corner his last handful of fights and realized why. These guys can "Coach" you like a life coach. But actual BOXING TRAINERS seem to be a dying breed.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post
            Of course it is. That's why it pisses me off when judges and fans don't give the aggressor more credit. It's hard to hit a moving target. Meanwhile for the other guy the target is coming at you so it's much easier to hit.
            Yep. Its actually very hard to cut off the ring against someone with quick feet and strong movement and is dedicated to not getting hit. Its not some magic counter move that casuals seem to think it is unless its a small ring. A great example was Shakur v Santos. I don't think anyone could have cornered Shakur in that fight, when he was jumping back 3 feet anytime Santos moved forward.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

              Yep. Its actually very hard to cut off the ring against someone with quick feet and strong movement and is dedicated to not getting hit. Its not some magic counter move that casuals seem to think it is unless its a small ring. A great example was Shakur v Santos. I don't think anyone could have cornered Shakur in that fight, when he was jumping back 3 feet anytime Santos moved forward.
              Depends on the ref too though. If you're the A side the ref will allow you to get away with some shoulder bumps, shove offs, etc. when cutting the ring off. Other guys will get warned immediately for that.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Bullrider View Post
                There's a possibility we will see it demonstrated again in the Lara vs Zerafa fight.
                I doubt Zerafa can get Lara on his bike, I reckon Lara will appear a big puncher in this.

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                • #18
                  Ring cutting is getting more difficult to find on current top professional boxers, likely because trainers are more focused on their athletic performance while the fighters will have to learn for themselves.

                  Can't really think of many exemplary pressure fighters that have educated aggression like Beterviev. I mean Loma and Inoue are boxer punchers that excels in just about every aspect of the game. They know how to apply ring cutting but they are't specialized in infighting. Haven't seen Crawford fight an out-boxer.

                  It is specially difficult for non pressure fighters like counter punchers to apply it, Lopez, De Los Santos and Rivera who clearly struggled knowing what to do with Sandor Martin, Shakur Stevenson and Frank Martin who aren't necessarily the biggest punchers.

                  Pure boxers fighting each other would be a entertaining chess match unless there is a big disparity in athleticism or power.

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                  • #19
                    The only difference between cutting the ring off and following is 1/2 a step.

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                    • #20
                      Seems to be a dying art. It appears trainers, or coaches, or whatever you want to call them, have increasingly focused on a few offensive techniques over the years and let others go. First guy I think of when I hear “cutting off the ring” is Roberto Duran, especially in his first fight with Leonard.

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