Floyds 40 million flat offer debunked

[djtmal]

Been answered many times.

Answer it again. It's a recurring theme

[Roadblock]

Answer it again. It's a recurring theme

Your feeble brain is a recurring theme of never growing up, if I had a dog as mentally backwards as you Id put a lead pill in its ear.

[ELPacman]

Why don't you answer the simple question that was put to you, you made a claim I asked you to explain why Manny taking a PEDS test was a Bullet as you said.

We don't need a drawn narrative that's been beaten to death, its been PROVEN that Manny refused full random testing which is why the fight did not happen in 2010.

Now just answer the question why is it a Bullet for Manny to be tested, your words?

I already explained it in my post if you didn't realize that. Fraud HANDICAPS his opponents that can present a danger to him.

[Verus]

This is a technical breakdown of floyd's duck of manny pac


in 2012 floyd who had already agreed to a 50-50 purse split against pac suddenly changed his mind when pac agreed to drug testing. the new deal was pac only gets a 40 million flat fee with no ppv revenue at all.

This will prove that floyd going from a 50-50 split to a flat offer of 40 million was in fact a duck move(i think the vast majority realize this but maybe cant articulate quite how it was a duck since they dont have the numbers)


floyd had 8 ppvs under his belt at that time so lets compare his 8 ppvs to mannys last 8 ppvs before the flat offer and see what we get...


if we go back 1 fight before the offer pac-marquez 3 did 1.4 million. floyd-ortiz did 1.25 million. edge to pac.

if we go back 2 fights pac-mosley did 1.34 and floyd-mosley did 1.4. total thats 2.74 for pac and 2.65 for floyd. edge to pac

if we go back 3 fights pac-marg 1.15 and floyd-marquez 1. total 3.89 for pac and 3.65 for floyd. edge to pac.

if we go back 4 fights pac-clottey 700k and floyd-hatton 850k. total 4.59 for pac and 4.5 for floyd. edge to pac.

if we go back 5 fights pac-cotto 1.25 and floyd-hoya 2.4. total 5.84 for pac and 6.9 for floyd. edge to floyd.

if we go back 6 fights pac-hatton 850k and floyd-baldomir 325k. total 6.68 for pac and 7.25 for floyd. edge to floyd.

if we go back 7 fights pac-hoya 1.25 and floyd-judah 375k. total pac 7.94 and 7.6 for floyd. edge to pac.

if we go back 8 fights pac-diaz 200k and floyd-gatti 350k. total pac 8.14 and 7.95 for floyd. edge to pac.


oh yes and there are also the live gates that come into play. couldnt find them all but i have 66.7 for pac minus the david diaz fight and 64.2 million for floyd minus the baldomir fight. seems like a slight edge to pac there as well.

In Summary

Pac ppv revenue: 8.14 million live gate 66.7 million

Floyd ppv revenue: 7.95 million live gate 64.2 million


when floyd and pac did fight they split 400 million but in 2012 they probably would have generated even more but lets just say in 2012 it also sells 400 million. why did pac only deserve 40 million with floyd getting 360 million or more? that equates to a 90-10 split in floyds favor. i cant believe anyone actually blamed pac for not accepting this sh-it given his numbers were on par or better than floyds. a blatant duck and the prime example of what a lowball offer is, it especially makes it apparent floyd was ducking since he had already agreed to the 50-50 split only to change it later when his bluff was called about the testing. this was an absolute farce and disgrace on boxing.

This is a nice analysis!

[djtmal]

Your feeble brain is a recurring theme of never growing up, if I had a dog as mentally backwards as you Id put a lead pill in its ear.

I am not the one who said they knew and trained with Jeff Fenech, yet refuse to provide one ounce of proof.

[Pappy O’Daniel]

Lol bringing this whole thing back after 14 years huh?

[The Big Dunn]

I already explained it in my post if you didn't realize that. Fraud HANDICAPS his opponents that can present a danger to him.

Like Manny making Cotto come in at 146. Or Margs at 151?

[djtmal]

Like Manny making Cotto come in at 146. Or Margs at 151?

Or Floyd pulling Marquez up two divisions and still welching on the catchweight, which is far worse

[ELPacman]

Like Manny making Cotto come in at 146. Or Margs at 151?

A little context for you. Pac had 1 fight at 147lbs, that was against Oscar who called him out. Afterwards, knowing he wasn't a true WW, went to 140lbs to beat Hatton at his best division unlike someone else that beat him first at 147lbs. Then the idea was of putting Manny with Cotto was floated and Manny and team said, we're not true 147lber yet. They took the Oscar fight because of the money obviously, but still unsure of Manny facing true sized WW. Cotto did not have to agree to it. Clearly he wanted it just as bad. I didn't see anything wrong with how Cotto looked until he got dropped. In fact he looked hella strong in there.

Margarito fight, the dude came in almost 170lbs on fight night, lol. I think Manny was recorded weighing 152lbs on fight night? He looked super strong in that fight until he got beat the F up.

These are guys that in theory, should have beat up the smaller man. After the Margarito fight, Manny went in full 147lbs for every other opponent. I think it was a reasonable request early on in a division he wasn't truly fit for. In fact, I don't think he ever was, that's why he stopped knocking dudes out. He made up for the lack of his size with his speed and skills. His power was decent, but nothing like 140lbs and below.

[The Big Dunn]

Or Floyd pulling Marquez up two divisions and still welching on the catchweight, which is far worse

If you read the thread, the post I responded to is about Floyd. So this is already known.

Welching? You must not know what that word means.

Floyd waited to sign the final deal. Realized he Couldn’t make 144.

The contract was redone at 146. Floyd agreed to pay JMM an additional $600k rather than cancel the fight.

JMM signed the revised deal. They fought. Floyd won clearly.

This bothers you because Manny never clearly beat JMM and got ktfo by JMM when he used him after ducking Floyd yet again.

Get over it already dude its been over 10 years.