Comments Thread For: Oscar De La Hoya Hoping Shakur Stevenson Comes Out Of Retirement To Fight William Zepeda

[Eff Pandas]

Yeah but that's investing on a guy who's had boring fights before against lesser competition. If you have to keep giving him money to fight mediocre opponents and h3 keeps having boring performances AND doesn't put asses in seats then he's just getting overpaid. Idk Shakur definitely needs to lower his price range though

He definitely had some stinkers before EDLS but I think he was trending up entertainment wise til the last fight.

Idk why ANY boxer whos still improving & beating better & better guys would ever lower their price range. Lower your price when you don't got a belt & are older/past prime. Shakur is right at his physical peak now.

Like most boxers I think Shakur could enhance his value by going harder on social media, but he does do a lot of talking on twitter. And as a guy whos never gonna be Mike Tyson level exciting in the ring I think he could up his Q score more by taking a heel I'm better than you route like Floyd so he'll up the numbers of seats sold to ppl who come to watch him lose. But his boxing style is super high level & idk that he should change that much for more opportunities/money in theory, but also a lot more risk to lose or take unneeded damage in practice that could end up being a net negative for his bank account & health.

[just the facts]

And there goes Oscar name dropping again. Anyone who follows boxing know that unless Stevenson is willing to fight for half his worth, this fight ain’t getting made. Oscar does this over and over.

[Teetotaler69]

He definitely had some stinkers before EDLS but I think he was trending up entertainment wise til the last fight.

Idk why ANY boxer whos still improving & beating better & better guys would ever lower their price range. Lower your price when you don't got a belt & are older/past prime. Shakur is right at his physical peak now.

Like most boxers I think Shakur could enhance his value by going harder on social media, but he does do a lot of talking on twitter. And as a guy whos never gonna be Mike Tyson level exciting in the ring I think he could up his Q score more by taking a heel I'm better than you route like Floyd so he'll up the numbers of seats sold to ppl who come to watch him lose. But his boxing style is super high level & idk that he should change that much for more opportunities/money in theory, but also a lot more risk to lose or take unneeded damage in practice that could end up being a net negative for his bank account & health.

Because they put on stinkers and aren't drawing a crowd. It's really that simple. A fighters accomplishments are overlooked when they're simply not generating money.


Social media only works if you also have someone to trash talk. Cryan who already had a presence went back and forth with Romero and hankey (which gave hankey some more attention) got alot of hype for the fights. Stevenson has tweeted about loma and idk who else but he basically just gets ignored. Idk shakira is just a hard sell and if he insists on big paydays for non big fights i dont see him getting it.

[MulaKO]

Can’t see this happening

[Eff Pandas]

Because they put on stinkers and aren't drawing a crowd. It's really that simple. A fighters accomplishments are overlooked when they're simply not generating money.

He got his current deal when he was putting on more stinkers than he is now. Its r3tard sh^t to ask for less money now. And idk what it matters to test his value if he's wrong. If he's wrong he'll get offered less & it is what it is. Personally if I was in his shoes I'd gamble on myself like he is tho. Odds are it'll lean towards his benefit.

The last few gate numbers I saw were in the above 500k, below 1M range which is great for the guys he's fighting. I haven't seen anything released about the EDLS fight but I'd expect it to be in or around that range.

Bob isn't r3tarded either. He knows you aren't doing 2M+ gates for a guy like Shakur yet so I'm sure hes not paying him like he is. Shakur gots to get the attention of more casual fans for that & that can take time when you aren't a HW, a social media savvy guy or KOing name guys.

[Teetotaler69]

He got his current deal when he was putting on more stinkers than he is now. Its r3tard sh^t to ask for less money now. And idk what it matters to test his value if he's wrong. If he's wrong he'll get offered less & it is what it is. Personally if I was in his shoes I'd gamble on myself like he is tho. Odds are it'll lean towards his benefit.

The last few gate numbers I saw were in the above 500k, below 1M range which is great for the guys he's fighting. I haven't seen anything released about the EDLS fight but I'd expect it to be in or around that range.

Bob isn't r3tarded either. He knows you aren't doing 2M+ gates for a guy like Shakur yet so I'm sure hes not paying him like he is. Shakur gots to get the attention of more casual fans for that & that can take time when you aren't a HW, a social media savvy guy or KOing name guys.

He might not ask for less money he should accept what's being offered to him. How are you not getting this? Lmfao all he has to do is stay with Arum cause no promoter is gonna risk losing alot of money who's style is hard to watch and doesn't sell out the venue. Hearn bankrupted dazn and I can't see him putting dazn ppv with Shakur that'll generate money especially since hankey-prograis got paid millions, Oscar would probably try to make the zepeda fight and cryan probably won't fight him. His best bet his Arum or try his hand at pbc.

[Eff Pandas]

He might not ask for less money he should accept what's being offered to him. How are you not getting this?

This was fine in the 1950's or whatever when loyalty among worker & employer meant something, but these days we live in a uber capitalist world & if you aren't taking advantage of any edge you have, in this case multiple suitors, you are ******ly leaving money on the table.

And like I said it might not work out but odds are it will cuz competition among employers for your talent tends to lend itself to better results for you in boxing or for regular ass ppl in regular ass careers.

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[Teetotaler69]

And there goes Oscar name dropping again. Anyone who follows boxing know that unless Stevenson is willing to fight for half his worth, this fight ain’t getting made. Oscar does this over and over.

After his last performance he already dropped his worth by half himself clown