What is it about Bivol that makes him soo good despite looking ordinary?

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  • Roadblock
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    #21
    Originally posted by automaton89

    He doesn't have enough power to finish off Canelo. Floyd had more power pound for pound than Bivol. And Floyd is not a puncher.
    I agree, p4p Floyd punched harder, off the top my head Bivol reminds me of Winky, gotta go watch a Winky fight now lol

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    • automaton89
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      #22
      Originally posted by Roadblock

      I agree, p4p Floyd punched harder, off the top my head Bivol reminds me of Winky, gotta go watch a Winky fight now lol
      So there's your answer why he doesn't stop Canelo. Btw, Canelos never been floored? His jaw is pretty legendary

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        #23
        Originally posted by automaton89

        So there's your answer why he doesn't stop Canelo. Btw, Canelos never been floored? His jaw is pretty legendary
        I didn't have a question, looked to me like he didn't try to stop Canelo who was sluggish no game plan and laying on the ropes too much, Canelo looked in the worst condition Ive seen him in and his terminator mindset had run its race against a bigger guy that can move and he cant dominate by clubbing, that's why I say Bivol is not great as Canelo was there for the taking, a great fighter fighting a smaller guy from a lower division would stop Canelo if they had him in position.

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        • satiev1
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          #24
          Originally posted by automaton89
          If you used Bivol for the famous eyes test and see him fight anonymously, I would say he neither fails nor passes the eyes test. He's the most boring prize fighter in my opinion.

          He's not strong. He's not powerful. He's not particularly fast. Add to that his boxing style which is pretty wooden/ ordinary. No cause for concern there either.

          But Bivol obviously does something great by beating up Canelo.. So what is it about him? Does he rely on exceptional timing and that's that?
          You're funny. He's not fast lol. He's extremely fast. His speed is beyond elite level lmao along with his reflexes and defense.

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            #25
            Originally posted by automaton89
            If you used Bivol for the famous eyes test and see him fight anonymously, I would say he neither fails nor passes the eyes test. He's the most boring prize fighter in my opinion.

            He's not strong. He's not powerful. He's not particularly fast. Add to that his boxing style which is pretty wooden/ ordinary. No cause for concern there either.

            But Bivol obviously does something great by beating up Canelo.. So what is it about him? Does he rely on exceptional timing and that's that?
            There is your problem. You think Canelo was good at 175 when he wasn't. Zurdo sucks also. Bivol is way overrated. Hes a pretty good fighter but nothing special. He looked ordinary before Canelo cherry picked him which is why he was chosen yet now people think he's p4p. He is a pretty basic euro fighter.

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              #26
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

              He is just a great fighter, amazing to watch.
              Amazing to watch? That is why he is a nobody who can't draw flies even after the Canelo rub? If he so amazing why did he go 8-4 vs Richards, a UK level fighter? So amazing he has not stopped anyone in his last 9 fights.

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                #27
                Bivol is a great technical boxer, difficult to deny that, but I wouldn't particularly want to watch him fight unless it's against top level opposition like let's say Joe Smith Jr, Canelo or Beterviev.

                If anyone else is entertained watching him outpoint shelled up and outclassed fighters like Lyndon Arthur who are mostly undamaged throught out twelve rounds that's fine. Just not my cup of tea.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by automaton89

                  He doesn't have enough power to finish off Canelo. Floyd had more power pound for pound than Bivol. And Floyd is not a puncher.
                  Well, nobody finished Canelo so far, dude has a great chin.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Oracle01

                    Amazing to watch? That is why he is a nobody who can't draw flies even after the Canelo rub? If he so amazing why did he go 8-4 vs Richards, a UK level fighter? So amazing he has not stopped anyone in his last 9 fights.
                    Ok, so maybe should your boy Benavidez get some balls and fight him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Oracle01

                      There is your problem. You think Canelo was good at 175 when he wasn't. Zurdo sucks also. Bivol is way overrated. Hes a pretty good fighter but nothing special. He looked ordinary before Canelo cherry picked him which is why he was chosen yet now people think he's p4p. He is a pretty basic euro fighter.
                      Benavidez is Ramirez 2.0.

                      This is why is benavidez calling out small Canelo instead of calling out 175 guys.

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