My top 50 p4p fighters of all time

[jrosales13]

I honestly feel that if JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ was american and not mexican he would be a top 10 in everybodys list cause i remember larry merchant compare chavez to robinson and even lampley alot of comentators would compare chavez to alot of great fighters but went he started losing i think that's went the public forgot all the **** they spoke i have a collection of boxing fight's. I have over 4500 fight in my house and honestly julio cesar chavez was one of the greatest champions of all-time.And the reason chavez was so good was because of the fight's he would fight to stay in shape all those taxi driver that people would claim that were bums. His chin was like iron and he had underrated boxing skills.........guys dont get carried away cause im not mexican my family is from the dominican republic and i was born in the bronx im 29 years old and ive been watching boxing since i was 7 years old and i've seen so much boxing matches over the years that sometimes i feel i see punches flying at me lolol but anyways thats just my opinion julio cesar chavez doen't get the credit he deserves by the american public. Even mayweather jr said that one of the GREATEST fighter's of any era was julio cesar chavez ...By the way i got video fudige of him saying that and the only reason the i dont put old school fight's in youtube is cause i have all my fight's in video and i haven't converted them to dvd so i can't download my fight's to my computer but once i convert my fight's ill start *****g fight's in youtube cause there's fight's that i have that i feel nobody has...And like i said im not mexican i just gotta say that to me chavez was a beast in his prime....top 10 in my list the greatest of all-time without a question to me is sugar ray robinson i got great fight's from him and i love his style of fighting...he the best

You right Chavez could easy be top 10. I agree that a lot of people don't give him the credit he deserves. His resume is very underrated.

[jrosales13]

Anyone can pick apart these lists but...

Duran should probably be above Leonard...

Whitaker above Leonard?

Pacquiao is too high, and Hopkins above Hagler?

And no Roy Jones...don't like this list...

Like I said earlier I wanted to put Duran higher but I couldn't get that image of the Hearns fight out of my head.

I think Whitake and Leonard are even. IMO Whitaker won all his fights until he ran into Trinidad. And, by that time Whitaker was passed his best.

Pac has done stuff no other boxer has done before.

Hagler above Hopkins as a MW. But, B-hop proved he could have some success at a higher weight. While Hagled didn't. I am not saying Hagler couldn't it. But, we never saw it.

Every single person on my list has claimed a linear title. Roy Jones never won one. He was never the real champion in none of the weightclass he competeted in,

[t.boone.pickenz]

I did spend a lot of time in this list. Out of all the list I made this is the one I like the most.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Willie Pep
4. Muhammed Ali
5. Harry Greb
6. Joe Louis
7. Sam Langford
8. Benny Leonard
9. Jack Johnson
10. Ezzard Charles
11. Pernell Whitaker
12. Ray Leonard
13. Jimmy Wilde
14. Roberto Duran
15. Joe Gans
16. Julio Cesar Chavez
17. Barney Ross
18. Tony Canzoneri
19. Sandy Sadler
20. Archie Moore
21. Mickey Walker
22. Gene Tunney
23. Jimmy McClarnin
24. Kid Gavilan
25. Jake Lamotta
26. Ike Williams
27. Bob Fitzsimmons
28. Salvador Sanchez
29. Manny Pacquiao
30. Rocky Marciano
31. Stanley Ketchel
32. Jose Napoles
33. Billy Conn
34. Emile Griffith
35. **** Tiger
36. Eder Jofre
37. Evander Holyfield
38. Rubin Olivares
39. Bernard Hopkins
40. George Foreman
41. Marvin Hagler
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Larry Holmes
44. Tiger Flowers
45. Thomas Hearns
46. Terry McGovern
47. Abe Attell
48. Aaron Pryor
49. Carlos Monzon
50. Marcel Cerdan

I was hoping that Trinidad (my favorite fighter of all time) would make my top 50. But, I really coldn't put him ahead of any of this guys

Eder jofre 36 and carlos monzon at 49? WTF

[jrosales13]

Uh Ali lost to Frazier, beat a paid off Liston. NEVER BEAT NORTON. First of all he got destroyed the first fight, then had two sets of paid off judges say he wont the next two. I will go round by round with you and prove he never beat Norton. Lost to a Spinks what had 7 fights, what a joke. Didnt beat Shavers either. I will go round by round again with you. Haha, why no rematch with Young? Oh yeah, because he also beat Ali. Bonavena was terrible. Boom. And Ali had to cheat to beat COoper. Smelling salts are illegal theres video evidence of him using them. What a joke. Ali often fought guys 40 pounds less than him. What a joke. Knocked down by Chuck Wepner. Beat by a prime Joe Frazier. And then beat a Joe Frazier who after being undefeated won 5 of his last 10 fights. What a joke.

Get out of here troll.

Joe's never been beat. He was amazing. Again Joe Beat Roy, who beat Toney, who beat holyfield, who beat tyson, who beat holmes who beat the hell out of Ali. Get out of here.

Ali has losses and tons of rigged decisions and joke fights.

I would debate you and really beat you but you also think Vitaly is the greatest HW of all time and is unbeatable. So I won't waste my time with the type of knowledge you posses.

[jrosales13]

Eder jofre 36 and carlos monzon at 49? WTF

Where would you put them at?

[prtyboybladeage]

I stopped at Manny, because I didn't even want to keep reading the list after not seeing Floyd in atleast the top 25.

thumbs down.

[jrosales13]

I stopped at Manny, because I didn't even want to keep reading the list after not seeing Floyd in atleast the top 25.

thumbs down.

Floyd in the top 25? Really? you should do a top 25 list of all time. I am curious how your list would look.

[t.boone.pickenz]

Where would you put them at?

jofre at around 20 and monzon at 35

[jrosales13]

jofre at around 20 and monzon at 35

Ok... I am not saying I am right and you are wrong. Is a hard list to do. I am not sure if I could put Jofre above lik Arhie Moore or Kid Gavilan or even Lamotta. But, Jofre was great. If you have him on your 20 I wouldn't argue. Is a hard list to do. You should try whenever you have the chance. And, I would of loved to see Monzon try another weight-class. But, he was also great. He was unbeated in his wat last 80 fights? If he would of had success at a higher weight-class. I would put him in around 35.

[t.boone.pickenz]

Ok... I am not saying I am right and you are wrong. Is a hard list to do. I am not sure if I could put Jofre above lik Arhie Moore or Kid Gavilan or even Lamotta. But, Jofre was great. If you have him on your 20 I wouldn't argue. Is a hard list to do. You should try whenever you have the chance. And, I would of loved to see Monzon try another weight-class. But, he was also great. He was unbeated in his wat last 80 fights? If he would of had success at a higher weight-class. I would put him in around 35.

i know for sure you could place him above pacquiao