It's clear now that ward retired due to avoid bivol and beterbiev

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Ward retired because the more he fought the more it became obvious he was just gaming the system and cheating nonstop to win fights.

Like a good con artist he got out before the heat became too hot but those last 2 fights oh boy did they expose him, an absolute robbery(insert ward shocked face) and a complete calamity cheat fest in front of everyone's eyes.

It's hard to spin that stuff and say this is some great fighter even for the best propagandist or grifter. Both bivol and beterbiev would beat ward though but he didn't avoid them, he avoided tarnishing his reputation even more.

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Imagine Ward trying to hug and ball punch Beterbiev. Artur would just rabbit punch his ***** ass. Ward would probably pull a Hopkins and roll around on the ground crying trying to get a ref DQ win.

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Imagine Ward trying to hug and ball punch Beterbiev. Artur would just rabbit punch his ***** ass. Ward would probably pull a Hopkins and roll around on the ground crying trying to get a ref DQ win.

And it would work given the rest of his career. I remember him crying when bika was roughing him up and when Rodriguez was doing the same the ref threatened to fine him and he stopped trying and then just stood there the rest of the fight yet when ward cheats nonstop...ref let's him. Ward was an a side creation. He couldn't fight without it being rigged in his favor and in fact he refused to fight unless everything was

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Kovalev was NEVER better than Bertebiev, not then, not now, not ever.

Kovalev cried that he was robbed in the amateurs and that the russian national team was mean to him and just liked Beterbiev better for reasons that he was actually better but for whatever reason the national team didnt like him. Then when given the opportunity to fight his rival in the pros he declined.

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Kovalev cried that he was robbed in the amateurs and that the russian national team was mean to him and just liked Beterbiev better for reasons that he was actually better but for whatever reason the national team didnt like him. Then when given the opportunity to fight his rival in the pros he declined.

Beterviev declined the fight and a 500k plus ppv payday when he wasn't making much at all so that's not true

from beterviev manager..."We want to fight Kovalev. With one more fight, the trainer was feeling more comfortable that he would have a better chance to go and win this fight. It was not a bad offer that Kathy made and I did not try to negotiate with it."

[Lance98]

He was already thinking of retirement after the first kovalev fight, dumb azz. Kovalev was the main man at LHW back then and stevenson was the WBC champ. It was a different era.

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Bivol was still new on the scene when Ward was having his Kovalev fights. The Beterbiev fight could have been there however and he’s a terrible style matchup for Ward. Beterbiev is probably stronger in the clinch and has a mauling style to match Ward’s messy work.

[just the facts]

Ward retired because the more he fought the more it became obvious he was just gaming the system and cheating nonstop to win fights.

Like a good con artist he got out before the heat became too hot but those last 2 fights oh boy did they expose him, an absolute robbery(insert ward shocked face) and a complete calamity cheat fest in front of everyone's eyes.

It's hard to spin that stuff and say this is some great fighter even for the best propagandist or grifter. Both bivol and beterbiev would beat ward though but he didn't avoid them, he avoided tarnishing his reputation even more.

Do you have a negative view of every black fighter that ever lived? It sure appears that way.

[Eff Pandas]

Some fans project their own fears & lack of confidence onto boxers too much.

[QueensburyRules]

Do you have a negative view of every black fighter that ever lived? It sure appears that way.

- - Wart daddy be Whyte.

Wart retire because he need to be jealous of Canelo making 10x more $$$ and having 10X more fans than him.

Besides, he Imelda Marcos shoe collection need him at home...