Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua-Wilder is Dead For Now, It's a Mismatch in My Opinion!

[juggernaut666]

That’s fine. AJ really shouldn’t be rated highly either as he’s lost 2 of his last 5 and 3 of his last 8. I’m of the belief that both AJ and Wilder have been overhyped in this weak era of heavyweight boxing.

Yea except he defeated Parker already he also lost to a guy most consensus is going to beat Fury so if we use logic here we can see the difference in Wilders resume and Joshua’s , you can literally take one of Wilders best wins Breazeale who isn’t even on Joshua’s radar and then take Parker fight and common sense should prevail . Lol

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you cannot talk about delusion when deontay wilder is among that topic………most of the American die hards were so desperate to find a decent heavyweight that they completely whitewashed over the fact wilder was utter trash …….which he is 100% refuse collection and that’s the way it is

I’m not one of the ones defending Wilder, so I can definitely speak on Hearns delusion regarding AJ. Most Brits were so desperate to claim AJ as the next coming of Lennox Lewis, that they completely whitewashed over the fact that he was a mentally fragile hype job who has quit in the ring and schooled twice by cruiser who otherwise hasn’t looked impressive at hw. Which is 100% accurate and thats the way it is.

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Yea except he defeated Parker already he also lost to a guy most consensus is going to beat Fury so if we use logic here we can see the difference in Wilders resume and Joshua’s , you can literally take one of Wilders best wins Breazeale who isn’t even on Joshua’s radar and then take Parker fight and common sense should prevail . Lol

Ohhh, you’re one of those casuals who like to use triangle theories and imaginary consensus theories for fights that haven’t happened. Yeah, that’s not something that works in boxing. You keep referring back to Wilder who I’m not defending, I’m speaking on the delusion of how highly Hearn (and apparently you) regard Aj.

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Alot of refs would have stopped the fight with Wilder given how dramatic the kd was, and Wilder is terrible so if you think the same about Otto then damn Fury must be pretty bad himself.
I had Fury winning against Francis but only by 1 point which might as well be a loss for him given the circumstances.

I don't know for "a lot". The fact is that in those particular fights the referees and the doctor (if a cut is deep, but not really endangering the fighter's health, then I guess a doctor can allow the fight if the cutman can handle the wound) didn't stop them. So maybe "a lot" would have done the same. But there is a key point: Jack Reiss showed what a quality referee is. Of course, people are free to see fights different, but that causes bad dialogues when it's argued over the internet.

Is Fury bad - he is for some. For others he isn't. This goes similar for big names like Calzaghe, Lennox, Marciano, Ali, Floyd. All are judged in time by different generations.

[juggernaut666]

Ohhh, you’re one of those casuals who like to use triangle theories and imaginary consensus theories for fights that haven’t happened. Yeah, that’s not something that works in boxing. You keep referring back to Wilder who I’m not defending, I’m speaking on the delusion of how highly Hearn (and apparently you) regard Aj.

Wilder and Fury have never fought Joshua so only one actually making triangle theories is you ? Lol

You are defending both Fury and Wilder ,you do this by trying to downplay someone they never fought and should have actually lost to similar opponents bc Joshua has wins over both Parker and Wallin who technically TKO”d Fury so this isn’t triangle theory bc Wilder and Fury cannot claim they have any wins over Joshua and if Usyk defeats Fury it really dampens straw man arguments you put up on here daily . Lol

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Wilder and Fury have never fought Joshua so only one actually making triangle theories is you ? Lol

You are defending both Fury and Wilder ,you do this by trying to downplay someone they never fought and should have actually lost to similar opponents bc Joshua has wins over both Parker and Wallin who technically TKO”d Fury so this isn’t triangle theory bc Wilder and Fury cannot claim they have any wins over Joshua and if Usyk defeats Fury it really dampens straw man arguments you put up on here daily . Lol

. You’re the one who used Parker and Breazele for your triangle logic. I haven’t defended anyone and you’re only trying to push the false narrative because you’re overly sensitive about AJ. Stick to what I’ve actually said instead of making stuff up. Stop your imaginary logic and focused on what has happened and as I said, Hearn is deluded when it comes to AJ. As are you.

[unknowledgeablepugilist]

I’m not one of the ones defending Wilder, so I can definitely speak on Hearns delusion regarding AJ. Most Brits were so desperate to claim AJ as the next coming of Lennox Lewis, that they completely whitewashed over the fact that he was a mentally fragile hype job who has quit in the ring and schooled twice by cruiser who otherwise hasn’t looked impressive at hw. Which is 100% accurate and thats the way it is.

I would argue, AJ isn't a hype-job, nor is he particularly mentally fragile. I'd also point out being beat by a cruiser-weight who will be a first ballot hall of famer isn't really a big deal. I'd argue you're not speaking facts by hyper-focusing on negative opinions without tangible evidence.

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I would argue, AJ isn't a hype-job, nor is he particularly mentally fragile. I'd also point out being beat by a cruiser-weight who will be a first ballot hall of famer isn't really a big deal. I'd argue you're not speaking facts by hyper-focusing on negative opinions without tangible evidence.

So I guess you missed when he quit against Ruiz? Or when he passively quit in the first fight against Usyk and then dramatically d****d himself over the ropes at the bell. Or how about the weirdo breakdown after losing the rematch to Usyk? Not really indicators of someone who has great mental strength Being beat twice by a cruiser who hasn’t looked good at hw other than when he beat Joshua , while having a 20 pound weight advantage and a 3 inch height advantage may not be a big deal to you, but it’s quite telling. That’s all tangible evidence that you apparently choose to ignore.

[unknowledgeablepugilist]

So I guess you missed when he quit against Ruiz? Or when he passively quit in the first fight against Usyk and then dramatically d****d himself over the ropes at the bell. Or how about the weirdo breakdown after losing the rematch to Usyk? Not really indicators of someone who has great mental strength Being beat twice by a cruiser who hasn’t looked good at hw other than when he beat Joshua , while having a 20 pound weight advantage and a 3 inch height advantage may not be a big deal to you, but it’s quite telling. That’s all tangible evidence that you apparently choose to ignore.

Did he quit against Ruiz, he spat out his gumshield to buy more time, which isn't unheard of but maybe he did quit. However, he immediately rematched Ruiz and won a white wash doesn't that show a level of mental fortitude?

Joshua did d**** himself over the roles likely due to exhaustion; he was being forced to work extremely hard, so I imagine he was fatiguing. I don't know how showing fatigue in a physical activity shows mental fragility.

Absolutely, the meltdown after Usyk was a breakdown but he has overcome it and ranked three straight wins. Mental fragility is being unable to deal with adversity but Joshua has continually showed his ability to overcome adversity. If AJ was mentally fragile, he wouldn't have accomplished what he has because he would of quit at the first obstacle but he hasn't.

What's telling? AJ was beaten by a smaller man even though he had the physical advantages. Holme's was beaten by Spinks. If you understand boxing you would know physical attributes don't determine a fight, Usyk was a better technical boxer with physical advantages himself like footspeed, stamina, and speed but you disregard those physical advantages for Usyk because it wouldn't support the narrative your putting forth.

In my personal opinion, I think you have bias against Joshua, which is clouding you're judgment.

[Stab Master Arson]

It was always a mismatch. Wilder is a can and always has been. Probably the biggest American hypejob fraud ever.

Americans were so desperate for a HW they got behind this turd.