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  • #31
    Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

    Hey
    Look who's still trolling me...
    You are a Google Hiphop Fan
    After I proved You know nothing about BOXING
    Now
    You wanna tell me about Hiphop?
    It's not your culture buddy
    1999-2005
    I promoted small Club shows in South Beach
    Fat Joe & DJ Khalid
    U keep saying I know nothing about boxing but I got like 40k in bet reciiepts from the last year that says different lmao. But u also promoted Khalid before he even started music so hey what ur saying is obviously true heheheh
    Last edited by LAchargers373; 12-28-2023, 09:03 AM.

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    • #32
      The positives Fury can take from his fight vs Nagnnou are? That he was already 4 months out from the Usyk fight 'Already in fighting condition'.

      Now this condition according to some folk, may have not been his best possibly condition 'But still I don't think Fury, especially since leaving Peter Fury has ever been at fighting weight 4 months out from a mega fight'.

      I don't think Fury won his fight vs Ngannou, but the fact of the matter is? Fury at-least showed that, he still has his innate resolve 'Fury was whacked got up, and to a certain extent fought his way back into the fight'.

      Note: Out of the two fighters Usyk has been fighting at a higher level, and he has been involved in more stylistically challenging fights for him specifically. Fury in comparison very rarely is matched in fights were he stylistically is being challenge 'Whyte, Chisora III, Wilder III, all of those fighters are stylistically easy fights for Tyson Fury'.

      But even still he never looked impressive in my opinion, during any of those fights, Wilder apart from his power 'Skill for skill should of been a much easier fight for Fury than it turned out'.

      Whyte, Chisora and Wilder these fighters are not great boxers, Fury was doing nothing vs Whyte until the knock out 'And he refused to fight a semi retired Chisora head on, in their third fight. Wilder also came very close to beating him in their third fight'.

      Tyson Fury is a fighter who is given the stereotype of being a masterful boxer, a all-time great super heavyweight in style 'But if you really check his performance's, since his win vs Kiltschko there is not much evidence for this'.

      You only have to look at Parker's recent performance vs Wilder 'Parker was not decked, he was not beaten up'.

      You would have the imagine, the version of Fury who was training under Peter Fury 'That version of Fury, potentially would not of been decked or whacked about by Wilder'.

      Usyk still is not the favorite for this fight, but stylistically they are actually a challenge for each other 'Usyk skill for skill is for me, from mid to long range a superior fighter to Fury. Fury has never come into contact with a fighter who can compete with him in those area's, since Wladimir Kiltschko'.

      Kiltschko most likely would of performed much better vs Fury in their scheduled rematch 'That is why I stated that, Kiltschko had the ability for sure to compete with Fury skill for skill'.

      Usyk also has by far greater levels of endurance, and has been fighting at a higher level than Fury skill for skill his entire career.

      When James Toney moved up to Heavyweights, he would continually make the statement 'That he has fought better fighters in the lower weight classes, than all of these Heavyweight fighters. David Haye also made similar comments, when he invaded the Heavyweight Division'.

      I don't think Usyk is intimidated by Fury skill level, or actual boxing ability 'Usyk has already beaten physically stronger, and more powerful Heavyweights like Anthony Joshua. What I believe is the major challenge for Usyk, is Fury inside game and rough house tactics'.

      I am specifically speaking about the Kronk Version of Fury, the Fury who people have become accustomed to watching over the past years. The Riddler Fury, that type of Fury would be a different kind of fight for Usyk, most likely less brutal but more of sophisticated challenge.

      I have been suspecting for sometime, that Tyson Fury may attempt to bring back 'Shades of the Riddler' For his fight vs Oleksandr Usyk. But I believe that such a attempt may back fire, due to the time frame Fury has to prepare and switch up his game.

      Fury for me should just pretty much refined and solidify his conditioning he had from the Ngannou fight 'And come into the fight a more dense, and solid version of himself'. As I have mentioned at the beginning of this post, Fury back in October was already in his usual fighting condition.

      When Rid**** Bowe fought Andrew Golota for the first fight, in response to his first performance 'Bowe went into overdrive and essentially over-trained. I believe Bowe went from 252 pounds to 235 pounds. Due to the time frame between the fights, at elite level sports this was most likely too much of a drop for a fighter like Bowe'.

      I have made this observation with certain boxers 'Some boxers a better off with blubber on them, if you attempt to alter their training and lifestyles habits too fast things can back fire badly. I believe their actual bodies can start to suffer, and go into physiological shock'. Because they have for most of their lives not really had great work ethics, in all areas.

      You see this all the time, most recently with Andy Ruiz Junior and Derek Chisora. 'Both of these fighters went through a period of time in their career's, when they suddenly decided to go into overdrive. Training, and nutritional altercations within their camps'.

      What a surprise, those Epiphanies and lifestyles altercations did not last very long. Due to their performances suffering from their usual form, or just their actual innate nature wanting to assert itself once again.

      If Fury for his fight vs Usyk attempts to drastically alter his training and lifestyle, at this point of his career 'And due to the time frame from his last fight, potentially it will completely back fire'.

      Usyk will most likely carry on his his recent trajectory of conditioning and performance levels at Heavyweight 'The speculation with this fight, is really mostly focused on Fury. What condition will he turn up in? What tactics will be attempt to employ? Fury has to make the right choice, but even if he does, that still may not be enough for him to win at this stage' etc.



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      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-28-2023, 09:29 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

        Sure u did lmao. I also managed Tupac and biggie ROFL
        Well
        Unlike You that couldn't prove you attended the Spence/"Crawford fight (Lololololol)
        Difference is I have pics with Fat Joe Mobb Deep Eve & Rza from Wutang @ all the events I promoted in Florida & the Islands

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

          U keep saying I know nothing about boxing but I got like 40k in bet reciiepts from the last year that says different lmao. But u also promoted Khalid before he even started music so hey what ur saying is obviously true heheheh
          Yup
          Back then I did 3 DJ Khaled hip hop parties in the Cameo Night Club

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          • #35
            Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

            Sure u did lmao. I also managed Tupac and biggie ROFL
            You wasn't born yet when 2pac & Biggie was around
            Buddy
            You too young
            Lololololol

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            • #36
              Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

              You wasn't born yet when 2pac & Biggie was around
              Buddy
              You too young
              Lololololol
              Doss doss doss ur boat I’m younger than u but at least I’m married and have kids u like 50 broke and a loser with no family bwahahahaha

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              • #37
                Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

                Doss doss doss ur boat I’m younger than u but at least I’m married and have kids u like 50 broke and a loser with no family bwahahahaha
                Well You know nothing absolutely nothing about me.....
                ​You Married & having kids doesn't make You mature or better than the next person
                Especially when you're not too Smart & you post & talk like a little kid
                "U ur doss dosser bwahahahaha
                100$"
                You always talk about all this money You have but you write ✍️ like this 100$
                Grow up....
                Lololololol

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

                  Well You know nothing absolutely nothing about me.....
                  ​You Married & having kids doesn't make You mature or better than the next person
                  Especially when you're not too Smart & you post & talk like a little kid
                  "U ur doss dosser bwahahahaha
                  100$"
                  You always talk about all this money You have but you write ✍️ like this 100$
                  Grow up....
                  Lololololol
                  I don’t take advice from lonely broke dossers like I said get a family get a life get some money then come talk to me and we might have something in common hahahahaha

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

                    Well You know nothing absolutely nothing about me.....
                    ​You Married & having kids doesn't make You mature or better than the next person
                    Especially when you're not too Smart & you post & talk like a little kid
                    "U ur doss dosser bwahahahaha
                    100$"
                    You always talk about all this money You have but you write ✍️ like this 100$
                    Grow up....
                    Lololololol
                    Get a life u lie on the internet for attention ROFL u dm other men for attention I have loads of dms from u begging me for pictures claiming u will pay for them but u can’t even prove u have the funds hahahahah. I can’t relate I’ve never had that issue. I can always prove I have the funds. Like I said u must be lonely stalking me and trying to guess where I live huh ROFL

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by landotter View Post

                      I have backed Usyk since before he unified the CW division, so I am a hard line Usyk defender and fan. But I cannot agree with you more. I do think Fury is showing signs of breaking down from decades of hard living and boxing wear and tear. But Fury is so strong mentally. The man just does not allow himself to cave. He will push himself, and he will come in gang busters. Usyk needs all his focus and all his tricks of the trade because there is no way the Fury we saw the last couple boxing matches will be the Fury Usyk sees. Maybe Fury cannot get back to his prime, but he will be the best 2024 version of himself he can be. If Usyk wins, it will be because he earns it. He will not get that last belt because Fury was out of shape and unmotivated.
                      Unless you count that 3 year period where he allowed himself to cave and blew up to 450lbs

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