Tonight on HBO: Morales-Barrera I & Pacquiao-Marquez

[oldgringo]

Both fights were as close as nails. Morales beat Barrera. The KD was bogus and he STILL beat him...

I think Marquez dominated the later part of the fight but I still scored it a draw I think. Pacquiao didn't get shut-out after rd1 like some people say though...

[BBFM]

yeah. first 2 fights were really close though. third one morales fought like **** thats what he gets for being a ****y idiot.

[SacTown1]

LOL yeah I thought Barrera was robbed two specially after the 12 round RULED knockdown (convincing or not). And I really don't get this "boxing lesson" posters keep repeating. 95% of boxing experts and writers saw a close fight and you guys see a one sided beatdown? Pffffffff

Good call my brother

guys who go down FACE FIRST in the FIRST ROUND aren't exactly poster-boy's for giving a "boxing lesson"

JMM came back like a warrior, but that was no boxing lesson, Manny shot his wad in rd 1 and JMM took advantage & counter-punched his way to survival

[m00ks]

Good call my brother

guys who go down FACE FIRST in the FIRST ROUND aren't exactly poster-boy's for giving a "boxing lesson"

JMM came back like a warrior, but that was no boxing lesson, Manny shot his wad in rd 1 and JMM took advantage & counter-punched his way to survival

You give a hand they take an arm. I scored it 7-5 for Marquez. Had he stayed up in the first, he would have won by a big enough margin. But 11 rounds come after the 1st...

[AintGottaClue]

i had barrera winning all 3 fights. and liek u said mooks 90%+ say it was a boxing lesson and i have never seen the fight so i'll have to agree with them

[BBFM]

You Think felix sturm is the best middleweight ever so it dont matter what you think.


Morales Clearly won the 2nd fight

1st was close 3rd he lost.

[Run]

Good call my brother

guys who go down FACE FIRST in the FIRST ROUND aren't exactly poster-boy's for giving a "boxing lesson"

JMM came back like a warrior, but that was no boxing lesson, Manny shot his wad in rd 1 and JMM took advantage & counter-punched his way to survival

I do not want to start another war concering this topic: But if you look at it in retrospect; Pacquiao only won the 1st round. You can score the 1st round a 10-6 which is unheard of. Most judges score a three knockdown round 10-7. Which I did. Marquez won literally every round after that, by landing the more clean, effective punches. He landed more, and threw less while Manny was doing the "Windmill". Agressiveness should certainly not be awarded if it does not affect an opponent.

I saw that as the biggest boxing lesson Manny has ever learned. he realizes this too, because he admitted it was a tougher fight than he had expected.

The punches which knocked JMM down, were flash punches...and flash knockdowns. They had literally no effect on the continuation of the fight, yet serve as a little reminder about "Dominance" in the ring.

In a related topic:
I have even heard people go to the length and say that Mike Tyson should have recieved a "draw" in his fight with douglas. People claim he was not given a "fair count" etc.
This stems from the fact they like watching Tyson knock someone down, or land the harder punches.
Extremely similar to Pacquiao if you ask me. He is simply "the fan favorite"
I might be biased, considering I was Rooting for JMM, and can not stand Pacquiao.
Another similar fight, was Mayorga V.S. Spinks.
If anyone gave the decision to Mayorga, its time to watch something else. fights should not be

THAT subjective. Please. Spinks owned him bad.



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[BBFM]

Neither JMM or BARRERA were hurt by the punches they both got up from them not being as hurt as when junior jones KO'd Barrera and we all know what morales did to him

[joeboxer]

Neither JMM or BARRERA were hurt by the punches they both got up from them not being as hurt as when junior jones KO'd Barrera and we all know what morales did to him

interesting... something to think about for sure.

[m00ks]

I do not want to start another war concering this topic: But if you look at it in retrospect; Pacquiao only won the 1st round. You can score the 1st round a 10-6 which is unheard of. Most judges score a three knockdown round 10-7. Which I did. Marquez won literally every round after that, by landing the more clean, effective punches. He landed more, and threw less while Manny was doing the "Windmill". Agressiveness should certainly not be awarded if it does not affect an opponent.

I saw that as the biggest boxing lesson Manny has ever learned. he realizes this too, because he admitted it was a tougher fight than he had expected.

The punches which knocked JMM down, were flash punches...and flash knockdowns. They had literally no effect on the continuation of the fight, yet serve as a little reminder about "Dominance" in the ring.

In a related topic:
I have even heard people go to the length and say that Mike Tyson should have recieved a "draw" in his fight with douglas. People claim he was not given a "fair count" etc.
This stems from the fact they like watching Tyson knock someone down, or land the harder punches.
Extremely similar to Pacquiao if you ask me. He is simply "the fan favorite"
I might be biased, considering I was Rooting for JMM, and can not stand Pacquiao.
Another similar fight, was Mayorga V.S. Spinks.
If anyone gave the decision to Mayorga, its time to watch something else. fights should not be

THAT subjective. Please. Spinks owned him bad.

Just making sure people don't miss this part