Doentay Wilder is……

[bballchump11]

I don't know if she's done yet. That ring rust is serious. Joshua fought 3 times this year and didn't look great in the first 2 fights. Wilder could use some rounds to truly judge where he's at.

[The Big Dunn]

ah the old sit back and wait for people to lose strategy. so its not so much what wilder did which was very little but what joshua did and that was lose, but when you continually fight good opposition you inevitably are more prone to losing. that doesnt mean people who sit back fighting bums are better than you and thats what wilder did. the modern equivalent is tank and loma. loma taking the tough fights and taking some losses, tank sitting back fighting weak comp but he continues to win. ruiz is a damn good fighter anyway, way underrated at the time of the joshua fight. way better and more accomplished than wilder in my mind and joshua avenged his loss which he should be given credit for

No it’s the losses against poor quality opponents effect how people rate boxers.

That is what rational fans do.

[Raggamuffin]

Most people saw Joshua better then Wilder since he defeated Klitchko if you step outside this forum . Lol

There been zero evidence Fury is even better based on what ?

At least Joshua fans are back after his wins over Wallin and Helenius lol…

[Raggamuffin]

People said the same about Joshua being finished after his Ruiz loss. It's only over if Wilder thinks it is - and he has barely fought for the last 2 years. So maybe he has given up? This could have just been a payday for him

He’s old now. He’s ring old.

[Raggamuffin]

joshua was always several tiers above wilder. before the wilder fanatics claimed wilder was better because only fury beat wilder, while ignoring wilders severe lack of resume in the process. now wilder just got schooled by a solid but not great fighter and you cant say that anymore. you have to just look at his resume...and its quite bad like i always said. wilders "greatness" was based on hype and fantasy. joshuas "greatnes" on his accomplishments. joshua losing to ruiz and usyk doesnt change that he still has a very good resume. wilder losign to parker should change everyones perception, but the reality was always the same.

Joshua and Wilder were never great. Wilder started late. He lost to a great chanpion. Joshua lost to a former CW twice and a slob. Wilder lost to Parker at 38. Beating an old 40 something Klit doesn’t make you great. Nobody saw Joshua greater than Wilder until he lost to Parker. They had about the same amount of respect from the fans. Both were seen as guys who in big moments fell short. But Wilder is 38 now. He’s never had any true skills. He did the most with really no skills. Joshua still has an outside chance to redeem himself if he can beat a guy like Fury because he can’t beat Usyk. But I’m glad that Joshua’s fans are back. That’s what wins over Wallin and Helenius can do. Rejuvenate the UK fans lol…

[Raggamuffin]

No it’s the losses against poor quality opponents effect how people rate boxers.

That is what rational fans do.

For them it’s the loss to Parker. That’s what has united Joshuas bandwagon fans. They’re back on lol. Joshua won a bore and Parker beat 38 year old Wilder. I do give credit to Parker. I mean he got kod by a bum in Joyce and was belittled only to come back and defeat Wilder so he gets props for that.

[juggernaut666]

At least Joshua fans are back after his wins over Wallin and Helenius lol…

Wallin would be Wilders best win so let that sink in . And he’d probably lose on points bc Wallin is a better boxer then Parker unfortunately for you guys Joshua exists and can make guys like that look average so it goes beyond Fury who also looked liked crap against a guy with no boxing record……...LEVELS . Lol

[Raggamuffin]

ah the old sit back and wait for people to lose strategy. so its not so much what wilder did which was very little but what joshua did and that was lose, but when you continually fight good opposition you inevitably are more prone to losing. that doesnt mean people who sit back fighting bums are better than you and thats what wilder did. the modern equivalent is tank and loma. loma taking the tough fights and taking some losses, tank sitting back fighting weak comp but he continues to win. ruiz is a damn good fighter anyway, way underrated at the time of the joshua fight. way better and more accomplished than wilder in my mind and joshua avenged his loss which he should be given credit for

No it’s not Loma and Tank lmao, Hilarious equivalent, lmao. Where we differ is their resumes and who we think are good. Yes Ruiz is good, but his resume was pedestrian before he fought Joshua. And you’re right, Joshua deserves credit for gaining revenge. The only reason you’re even saying what you're saying is because Wilder lost to Parker. Where were you after the losses to CW Usyk? You werent writing this, lmao….

[Raggamuffin]

Wallin would be Wilders best win so let that sink in . And he’d probably lose on points bc Wallin is a better boxer then Parker unfortunately for you guys Joshua exists and can make guys like that look average so it goes beyond Fury who also looked liked crap against a guy with no boxing record……...LEVELS . Lol

Because Wallin cut Fury, lmao…. I didnt forget Joshua’s losses let alone his style. The Helenius and Wallin disguises won’t work on me. But he has a chance to finally fight Fury should Fury beat Usyk.

[juggernaut666]

Because Wallin cut Fury, lmao…. I didnt forget Joshua’s losses let alone his style. The Helenius and Wallin disguises won’t work on me. But he has a chance to finally fight Fury should Fury beat Usyk.

No because Wilder hasn’t beat a prime top guy yet ? It would almost look like Usyk vs Wilder ,he’d look lost in there . He had a slight chance to knockout Parker because Parker’s aggressive in spots . For his next fight he better get another Helenius somewhere because this division is stacked now with boxer/ punchers he better not F up because Joshua’s waiting for him to give him his brutal knockout payday for his exit . Lol