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  • #11
    Originally posted by unknowledgeablepugilist View Post

    I honestly don't believe that's a realistic outlook on human nature. Why do you think people box? Because someone may have inspired them, that's a form of influence. On the other hand, a parent may push them towards boxing and the child may strive for gratification, that's a form of influence.

    Furthermore, plenty of all time great boxers have used the shortcomings of others as confidence boosters. Wheather it is age, weight, or a poor performances.

    Finally, the idea of people's success shouldn't influence people's confidence again is not logical. How many boxers did Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, or Muhammad Ali influence with their success?

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    Tell yourself what you want, there’s leaders and followers. Inspiration and confidence aren’t even remotely close to being the same or even similar. As a man many things can inspire us but confidence, it’s as simple as either you have it in yourself no matter the situation or obstacles or you lack it. My point stands, follow the leader all you wanna. Also, many boxers box for many reasons and the best of them almost always do it out of necessity to make a living and feed their loved ones and themselves, nothing to lose type confidence as opposed to people like AJ that are privileged and get handouts throughout life for whatever the reason and people like that don’t seem to want it as much as the others… like a Pacquiao for example. You think they have the same confidence and heart and will to win? Hell no
    Last edited by Robi13; 12-20-2023, 04:00 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
      That’s fragile as phuck if you use other men’s failures or even success to lift your confidence. Nothing or no one should ever have any influence with you but your damn self. That’s why AJ doesn’t have the heart to be an ATG, this mentality here
      Don’t act like Fury didn’t make the offer to fight AJ after his second loss in a row and mental breakdown to Usyk because he wasn’t picking on his weaknesses

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      • #13
        Originally posted by JayCho View Post

        Don’t act like Fury didn’t make the offer to fight AJ after his second loss in a row and mental breakdown to Usyk because he wasn’t picking on his weaknesses
        That’s got nothing to do with my statement

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

          That’s got nothing to do with my statement
          On the basis of my statement loads of other boxers are fragile too

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post

            That's literally all fighters. Look at your bf carnela. He literally got confidence after golovkin got old and looked bad against brook and Jacobs.

            Hankey did it as well. He saw prograis look like shlt so that's when he decided to fight him next

            Joshua just said what every fighter thinks
            He knows it's true. Well, maybe not ALL fighters, but plenty of them wait to see a champ get older and/or weaker before calling them out. Canelo vs GGG is a perfect example.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

              Tell yourself what you want, there’s leaders and followers. Inspiration and confidence aren’t even remotely close to being the same or even similar. As a man many things can inspire us but confidence, it’s as simple as either you have it in yourself no matter the situation or obstacles or you lack it. My point stands, follow the leader all you wanna. Also, many boxers box for many reasons and the best of them almost always do it out of necessity to make a living and feed their loved ones and themselves, nothing to lose type confidence as opposed to people like AJ that are privileged and get handouts throughout life for whatever the reason and people like that don’t seem to want it as much as the others… like a Pacquiao for example. You think they have the same confidence and heart and will to win? Hell no
              I'm not telling myself anything just pointing out you're beliefs are contradictory to human nature.

              You stated nobody or nothing should have influence over you. I didn't compare confidence and influence just pointed out how many boxers influenced in taking up the sport. Furthermore, if you are boxing out necessitiety then you're still being influenced by something so you're point is still illogical. Furthermore, many great boxers have stated the influence of others led them into boxing over other athletic endeavours.

              The notion of being born with or without confidence is unequivocally false. Some maybe more confident than others due to different environmental structures but confidence is built through experience. To be a professional boxer it requires a high level of confidence which is developed through ring craft. Some fighters will inevitably be more confident than others but having less confidence than someone else isn't an indication of being soft or fragile. Manny life experience was far more difficult than AJ so I would agree he's probably more confident due to the obstacles he's overcome.

              However, has AJ had everything handed to him? No only an idiot would think so because it takes year's of dedicated ring work to reach the elite level in boxing. Duran used to eat of bins but was his confidence unshakable? No. Leonard overcame horrible trauma but was he immune to gaining confidence off a rival's poor performance? No.

              Do you think Manny never saw a fighter have a bad performance and become more confident in his ability to win? If Manny confidence is so unshakable why have a catch weight with Cotto?

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              • #17
                Joshua admits that he grew in confidence on what he could do in a potential clash with WBC world champion Tyson Fury

                man this guy is mentally fragile or what, is he forgettin he has to get passed Wallin , then avoid getting annihilated by Wilder and even then if Fury hasn't retired and Aj grow's a pair he might actually fight and still can't win

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by JayCho View Post

                  On the basis of my statement loads of other boxers are fragile too
                  Cool.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by unknowledgeablepugilist View Post

                    I'm not telling myself anything just pointing out you're beliefs are contradictory to human nature.

                    You stated nobody or nothing should have influence over you. I didn't compare confidence and influence just pointed out how many boxers influenced in taking up the sport. Furthermore, if you are boxing out necessitiety then you're still being influenced by something so you're point is still illogical. Furthermore, many great boxers have stated the influence of others led them into boxing over other athletic endeavours.

                    The notion of being born with or without confidence is unequivocally false. Some maybe more confident than others due to different environmental structures but confidence is built through experience. To be a professional boxer it requires a high level of confidence which is developed through ring craft. Some fighters will inevitably be more confident than others but having less confidence than someone else isn't an indication of being soft or fragile. Manny life experience was far more difficult than AJ so I would agree he's probably more confident due to the obstacles he's overcome.

                    However, has AJ had everything handed to him? No only an idiot would think so because it takes year's of dedicated ring work to reach the elite level in boxing. Duran used to eat of bins but was his confidence unshakable? No. Leonard overcame horrible trauma but was he immune to gaining confidence off a rival's poor performance? No.

                    Do you think Manny never saw a fighter have a bad performance and become more confident in his ability to win? If Manny confidence is so unshakable why have a catch weight with Cotto?
                    I didn’t read all that bro, it won’t change how I see it. And you can keep believing what you wanna and keep it pushing

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

                      I didn’t read all that bro, it won’t change how I see it. And you can keep believing what you wanna and keep it pushing
                      It's easier to be wrong especially when you're views are based on false preconceived notions not critical reasoning.

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