coz hes a ***in chicken.
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Originally posted by BennyST View PostMan, I really like Guzman. He's one of my favourite fighters, but they never had a chance to fight until recently when Guzman screwed his chance by messing up the weight and not fighting Campbell. Apart from that they were never in the same division properly with each guy holding major belts and both being the top guys in the division.
You say he ducked Guzman at 122?
You're really stretching now mate. Guzman won his first ever vacant title in 2002 off Oliva in a great fight but he didn't get any recognition as the proper champ until he fought Agapito Sanchez who was actually the real champion. Guzman only got that vacant title shot because Sanchez had to relinquish it for medical reasons at the time so he was still considered the real champion. Guzman then didn't fight anyone until two years later when he got the chance to take on the proper champion in 2004 in his fight with Sanchez. By 2004 though Pacquiao had already moved up to SFW and had his big coming out fights with Barrera and Marquez so he was already well past Guzman at that stage who was still considered just a good prospect. Pac was already fighting the biggest possible fights available though and there was no point in going from Barrera and Marquez back down to Guzman who meant nothing to anyone at that stage and didn't really even come to any good prominence until his 130 pound win in 2006 over Barrios. Pac was already in his trilogy with Morales though.
Guzman only could have gotten that shot around 2004 but Pac was already gone and Guzman was never the top guy before then.
The other thing is, before Guzman beat Sanchez to cement his being the top guy at 122 in 2004, Pac had already beaten the two other main champs at that weight three years previously, well before Guzman was even considered a title threat. Pac was the top guy during 2001 to 2003 when he then moved up to fight the big fights with Barrera. Guzman didn't even become the top guy until 2004 when he had to fight Sanchez for Sanchez' old title to claim his proper right as the champ so your time-line is all off man.
Now, the other big misconception is this: Guzman is from the Dominican Republic right? So, where is the black, African American thing come into it? If that's enough for you to go on then why don't you give him credit for beating Ledwaba and Sanchez? Both of those guys are also black and both of them were slick boxers in the same mold as Guzman.
Sounds to me like you just got some racial issues to deal with my man. You should get over it. It's only yourself and your own mind that is troubled by these things. No one else sees them or gives a **** about them., i said Pac is ducking AFRICAN AMERICAN/BLACK SLICK FIGHTERS, now with Guzman being a black slick boxer i'd have thought he fits into that category right? or didn't that suit your biased argument? only a damn idiot would consider Ledwaba and Sanchez "slick", those guys were average sluggers who were nowhere near Joan's class, the fact is after Guzman whooped Barrios Joan was calling out Pac left, right and centre and Roach himself came out and said "he didn't want Pac to fight him", Guzman even sent Pac an open letter HERE but still Pac ran for the hills and stayed as quiet as a mouse, so as i said until Pac faces that slick style QUESTIONS SHALL BE ASKED, he didn't do himself any favors with the way he blatantly ducked Shane either.
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Originally posted by whirlwind View PostYou are such a disgrace to your race by having a brain like the dinosaur. When Pac at 122 Guzman was nobody up to this day. Did you know where he is now? We also know even before the Hatton fight that if he win, he scheduled to fight Cotto as they both under Top Rank. And we know Mosley is despirate to get that fight. Oh by the way, he fought Ledwaba and Julio both have an african blood on them while Floydie never or will never fight a powerful, fast, relentless asian boxer.Last edited by Silky-Flow; 10-08-2009, 05:09 AM.
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Originally posted by Silky-Flow View PostStop hating and look at the damn FACTS, you don't even know what race i am so that right there shows your ignorance, if you had any clue about boxing you'd firstly know that Ledwaba and Julio WERE NOT SLICK BOXERS and secondly you'd know Guzman was one of the most exciting talents at 130while Pac was still there, Guzman openly challenged Pac and still Pac declined, those are the facts so i'd advise you to digest it and then deal with it.
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1. Hes got a fake smile
2. He claims to be the best but doesn't fight the best
3. He constantly contradicts himself
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Originally posted by whirlwind View PostWell two things maybe we can agree, first that Guzman is nobody. As of now we dont know where he is. Second, Floyd did not fight, any powerful, fast, relentless russian, asian, german, iraqis boxers and may never will!.
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"There'll always be haters that's the way it is, haters n****'s marry hater bitches and have hater kids"
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Originally posted by Silky-Flow View PostStop hating and look at the damn FACTS, you don't even know what race i am so that right there shows your ignorance, if you had any clue about boxing you'd firstly know that Ledwaba and Julio WERE NOT SLICK BOXERS and secondly you'd know Guzman was one of the most exciting talents at 130 while Pac was still there, Guzman openly challenged Pac and still Pac declined, those are the facts so i'd advise you to digest it and then deal with it.
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I can understand Floyd trying to maximize his dollar. What I can't understand are his fans pretending they're getting some of it. Damn, they'll do anything to see their hero keep his '0'.
Why wouldn't you want to see Mayweather-Mosley? No, I'm not talking about why Floyd wouldn't want to, I'm asking YOU, as a fan.
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