Comments Thread For: Crawford on Changing Boxing Business: 'That Eliminates A Lot of Things, Like Promoters, Managers ... People Not Gonna Like That'

[Teetotaler69]

Crawford just getting too big headed. Acting like he's some pioneer. The only way boxers can make it without a manager or promoter is being a big star which they need them for exactly that.

[GoonFace9917]

I like crawford as a boxer, just seems like his head is swelling lately

[Topdogggbm]

So one thing that I always wonder about….. I’m a die hard fan of the sport. Not really any particular fighter over others. I love the sport and love any solid event that is on. But the term “promoter” has always confused me. I’m in Cincinnati, not looked at as a major boxing city in any way at the moment. But when I hear comments like “X is promoted by Arum, or DAZN (or whomever or whatever network).”

But my question to that is, what are these promoters doing to actually PROMOTE these fights?! Any of them! I remember back in the day when I was getting into boxing heavily, I remember seeing actual posters in my town when like De La Hoya was fighting Mosley, or Tito fighting Winky, or any big fight. I remember seeing commercials. Etc. THAT is what I think of when I hear the word promoter. A guy or a team of people spreading the word, doing what they can to build interest.

Now it seems to me that promotion of that kind doesn’t even exist. It seems like promoters just negotiate a fight contract and that’s where it ends. No actual promoting. Maybe it’s different in bigger fight towns. Or the fighters home towns. But I do remember a time when fights were promoted more heavily, nationwide, regardless of other factors.

[QballLobo]

You're right, he can't, but he beat the sh.it out of errl and all the rest of them welterweight who didn't make excuses to not face him

Cong**** to him but this is about business.

Tank Davis/Ryan Garcia wasn’t even for a title and over a million buys. Bud/Spence was solid but didn’t do that well considering what each guy was getting paid and that it should have been a huge seller for a unification between two experienced undefeated champion.

Bud never really sold himself and now he’s in his mid 30’s and playing catch up.

[El_Mero]

I like crawford as a boxer, just seems like his head is swelling lately

His head been the same since 130lbs. He believes in himself. Is quiet and is that guy who beats up and disrespect cats with his punches

[LAchargers373]

I agree with Bud. The big catch is, many boxers are not the thinkers he is and thus, they would get eaten up without promoters and managers.

Maybe a boxers union type thing would work. I could almost see the big names, like Alvarez, Bud, Inoue, etc, pulling together and forming their own promotional company, ran by boxers for boxers. Where they could maybe make the big fights and put far less emphasis on the fighter's unbeaten records, cherry picking, etc. But that would take alot of work.

Golden Boy is ran by an ex champ who cheated his ass off to build Canelo into "the face of boxing". At the end of the day, boxers want the most money and most of them don't care who gives it to them. The "I care about legacy and want the best competition" fighters are few and far between.

It's hard to see it working. But maybe there is a model for it. Boxing is dying and as it gets worse, if boxers want to keep making money and have a fanbase, something has to give.

Kinda like GBP lol. Bud is a funny guy. Turned his win over spence to a forgotten memory

[Combat Talk Radio]

So one thing that I always wonder about….. I’m a die hard fan of the sport. Not really any particular fighter over others. I love the sport and love any solid event that is on. But the term “promoter” has always confused me. I’m in Cincinnati, not looked at as a major boxing city in any way at the moment. But when I hear comments like “X is promoted by Arum, or DAZN (or whomever or whatever network).”

But my question to that is, what are these promoters doing to actually PROMOTE these fights?! Any of them! I remember back in the day when I was getting into boxing heavily, I remember seeing actual posters in my town when like De La Hoya was fighting Mosley, or Tito fighting Winky, or any big fight. I remember seeing commercials. Etc. THAT is what I think of when I hear the word promoter. A guy or a team of people spreading the word, doing what they can to build interest.

Now it seems to me that promotion of that kind doesn’t even exist. It seems like promoters just negotiate a fight contract and that’s where it ends. No actual promoting. Maybe it’s different in bigger fight towns. Or the fighters home towns. But I do remember a time when fights were promoted more heavily, nationwide, regardless of other factors.

Promotion happens online. Social media and radio. Just like albums which also used to do posters.

Posters stopped because people no longer walk around like they used to.

[Topdogggbm]

Promotion happens online. Social media and radio. Just like albums which also used to do posters.

Posters stopped because people no longer walk around like they used to.

Haha I understand about the posters. I just don’t hear anything on the radio, and admittedly, this is the most social media I’m involved in here. But it just seems like they don’t do **** as promoters, that I’d be doing if I was one. But I don’t know the dollars and cents behind it all either

[Combat Talk Radio]

Haha I understand about the posters. I just don’t hear anything on the radio, and admittedly, this is the most social media I’m involved in here. But it just seems like they don’t do **** as promoters, that I’d be doing if I was one. But I don’t know the dollars and cents behind it all either

Modern day "radio" is actually podcasts, Not traditional radio. And shows like Breakfast Club. Fighters go on there quite frequently, I think even Usyk was on there.

A lot of people outside the US found our show because they were looking for coverage on Subriel Matias and I was one of the few actually covering the guy's fights. That's just one example.

[Topdogggbm]

Modern day "radio" is actually podcasts, Not traditional radio. And shows like Breakfast Club. Fighters go on there quite frequently, I think even Usyk was on there.

A lot of people outside the US found our show because they were looking for coverage on Subriel Matias and I was one of the few actually covering the guy's fights. That's just one example.

Awesome! Thank you for your efforts!