Comments Thread For: Prograis Slams Rolly Romero: He's ****, Least Deserving Champion; Got Ass Beat By Old As **** Barroso

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Regis Prograis aims to defend his 140-pound WBC crown Saturday in a tough tussle against Devin Haney. The super lightweight division has a new set of titleholders after former undisputed champion Josh Taylor vacated three of his belts and lost his WBO title to Teofimo Lopez Jr. in June.
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[Smash]

rolly v cryin, it was always on

[DJrabit]

Another weak tank opponent

[Teetotaler69]

Lol agree 100 percent with everything prograis says

[2fast2strong]

You know boxing is first and foremost a business when a fighter like Rolly has a belt

[TreD]

Rolly is a character, which many boxers are not, and this is an entertainment business. The fans don't just want to see great skill.

Rolly fights like Rolly. He's not trying to be anyone else, and it works for him.

I think Rolly is great for the sport, like Blair Cobbs, but more original. Haters will hate

[Cypocryphy]

Rolly is a character, which many boxers are not, and this is an entertainment business. The fans don't just want to see great skill.

Rolly fights like Rolly. He's not trying to be anyone else, and it works for him.

I think Rolly is great for the sport, like Blair Cobbs, but more original. Haters will hate

Exactly. That's kind of the problem with boxing, IMO. It's supposed to be a sport first and foremost. However, with the success of American Wrestling, even going back to the WWF days, with its popularity that stemmed from larger than life characters, the the concepts of having a "heel" and a "face," it appears that promotional agencies have stolen some of the ideas or beliefs from pro wrestling and tried to apply it to boxing.

I remember reading that Mohamed Ali (when he was Cassius Clay) modeled himself after a pro wrestler because he instinctively knew that he could market himself well if he did that. I think that's when he started calling himself "the greatest ever," and began using bombastic language in his interviews, insulting his opponents and things like that. He was taking a page from pro wrestling.

Now we see almost every boxer doing that. From my point of view, this is clearly influenced by Mohammed Ali. He's the originator of the Rollys of the world, with one exception, Ali was an exceptional boxer while the same cannot be said about Rolly. His personality compensates for his lower skills abilities.

But I do believe that boxing should be more of a sport rather than a business. I think that had it been allowed to be a sport, it would have a much larger audience. We saw Rolly rob two boxers. The first was Jackson Marinez, who schooled Rolly. Literally schooled him and was robbed. Then we saw him do it again with Barroso. I think Weeks is a ref they send in to ensure one fighter wins. I've seen Weeks stop several fights prematurely, for no reason whatsoever, to favor the A-side boxer. Rolly was saved not because he's a great boxer but because he's a big personality. That's the wrong reason, IMO.

It's these "robberies" that have caused the sport to be a niche sport. I think this business model has seriously harmed the health of the sport. There are a lot of ex-fans of boxing that all give the same reason why they no longer watch it: "Boxing is rigged. It's fake, so I don't watch it anymore." Every time I ask a someone why they stopped watching, that's always the answer I get.

[TreD]

Exactly. That's kind of the problem with boxing, IMO. It's supposed to be a sport first and foremost. However, with the success of American Wrestling, even going back to the WWF days, with its popularity that stemmed from larger than life characters, the the concepts of having a "heel" and a "face," it appears that promotional agencies have stolen some of the ideas or beliefs from pro wrestling and tried to apply it to boxing.

I remember reading that Mohamed Ali (when he was Cassius Clay) modeled himself after a pro wrestler because he instinctively knew that he could market himself well if he did that. I think that's when he started calling himself "the greatest ever," and began using bombastic language in his interviews, insulting his opponents and things like that. He was taking a page from pro wrestling.

Now we see almost every boxer doing that. From my point of view, this is clearly influenced by Mohammed Ali. He's the originator of the Rollys of the world, with one exception, Ali was an exceptional boxer while the same cannot be said about Rolly. His personality compensates for his lower skills abilities.

But I do believe that boxing should be more of a sport rather than a business. I think that had it been allowed to be a sport, it would have a much larger audience. We saw Rolly rob two boxers. The first was Jackson Marinez, who schooled Rolly. Literally schooled him and was robbed. Then we saw him do it again with Barroso. I think Weeks is a ref they send in to ensure one fighter wins. I've seen Weeks stop several fights prematurely, for no reason whatsoever, to favor the A-side boxer. Rolly was saved not because he's a great boxer but because he's a big personality. That's the wrong reason, IMO.

It's these "robberies" that have caused the sport to be a niche sport. I think this business model has seriously harmed the health of the sport. There are a lot of ex-fans of boxing that all give the same reason why they no longer watch it: "Boxing is rigged. It's fake, so I don't watch it anymore." Every time I ask a someone why they stopped watching, that's always the answer I get.

Excellent response!

The WWE effect is surely in place, and I would agree that the robberies do an injustice to the sport.

I didn't know wrestling was fake when I was watching it as a kid, and now that I know, I don't watch it. Still enjoy it and have fond memories, but I don't invest much energy into it.

The difference with boxing is that, no matter what the promoters, judges or referee have planned, one man can KO another and change those plans quickly.

While it's not fair, boxers have a more fair opportunity than wrestlers. Knock your man out, and refuse to leave your fate in someone else's hands.

[Cypocryphy]

Excellent response!

Thanks man.

The WWE effect is surely in place, and I would agree that the robberies do an injustice to the sport.

I didn't know wrestling was fake when I was watching it as a kid, and now that I know, I don't watch it. Still enjoy it and have fond memories, but I don't invest much energy into it.

Me too!! When I was a kid, I loved watching it. But the moment I found out it was scripted, I just couldn't anymore.

The difference with boxing is that, no matter what the promoters, judges or referee have planned, one man can KO another and change those plans quickly.

While it's not fair, boxers have a more fair opportunity than wrestlers. Knock your man out, and refuse to leave your fate in someone else's hands.

Absolutely. And I think this is why people tune into punchers more than other fighters. At least one of the reasons. I think they were trying to rob Tank when he fought Garica. Garcia is younger and has more of a following. If there had to be a winner, I think "boxing" would prefer Garica to win than Tank because he'll be around longer and has a high ceiling for revenue generation. That round where Garcia had a flurry on Tank but didn't land too much, and then Tank knocked him down was a 10-10 round, and I think other judges gave a 10-9 for Tank. Something like that. The writing was on the wall that had Garcia lasted the 12 rounds, he'd have his hand raised. Tanks KO power saved him from being robbed, IMO.

Anyway, yeah, that's the big difference for sure.

[unknowledgeablepugilist]

Rolly is a character, which many boxers are not, and this is an entertainment business. The fans don't just want to see great skill.

Rolly fights like Rolly. He's not trying to be anyone else, and it works for him.

I think Rolly is great for the sport, like Blair Cobbs, but more original. Haters will hate

Romero talks a lot but doesn't deliver a good product. Furthermore, his style of fighting and trash talk isn't appealing in my opinion. Is the entertainment Romero provides pushing the needle?