Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: David Benavidez, Jaron Ennis, Matias, Stevenson, More

[Roadblock]

What was crazy is before Pac spoke up both Roach and Arum said Pac would have no problem doing it. Then backpeddled after Pac refused. That was when I started to believe he was on PED's.

Was definitely something going on when you consider full random testing no cut of dates was refused by Manny at the time and then was later enforced by him in his own fights, I mean if it is so bad for you to bail out of the biggest fight and purse in history for whatever reason, then how do you backflip and require it in your fights, as I said it will probably come out in years to come in a book or something but it was highly su****ious as it happened.

[ShoulderRoll]

Benavides doesn't beat Bivol. not even sure he beats Canelo. and Bivol totally owned Canelo...

Benavidez has sparred with Bivol. As Bread said, Benavidez speaks confidently about fighting him and it’s likely because he knows something from those sessions.

[Oregonian]

Two things, I believe Pac-Man of 2010 would have beat mayweaher of 2010. Opinion but it’s mine and I stand by it.

2. canelo is an ATG fighter 5’8” who has been champ at not only 175 and 168 but 154 and 160 just to answer the question that bread failed to answer.

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And he was knocked out cold by Marquez just two years later. Couldn’t beat Marquez the first three times either.
Manny is the only fighter (according to his loyal fans) that peaked three times in his career. At 126/130 when he was fighting brutal wars with the likes of Marquez, Morales and Barrera while losing and winning.
After that he wasn’t in his prime until 2009-2010 when he was fighting guys at catchweights. He then dropped off until he beat Thurman in 2019.

Meanwhile, Filipinos truly believe that he has never lost. They have an excuse for every loss.

I’m sure you stand by opinion and so do the millions of Filipinos who believe their guy has never lost.

[buge]

Two things, I believe Pac-Man of 2010 would have beat mayweaher of 2010. Opinion but it’s mine and I stand by it.

2. canelo is an ATG fighter 5’8” who has been champ at not only 175 and 168 but 154 and 160 just to answer the question that bread failed to answer.

He named Qawi

[Robi13]

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And he was knocked out cold by Marquez just two years later. Couldn’t beat Marquez the first three times either.
Manny is the only fighter (according to his loyal fans) that peaked three times in his career. At 126/130 when he was fighting brutal wars with the likes of Marquez, Morales and Barrera while losing and winning.
After that he wasn’t in his prime until 2009-2010 when he was fighting guys at catchweights. He then dropped off until he beat Thurman in 2019.

Meanwhile, Filipinos truly believe that he has never lost. They have an excuse for every loss.

I’m sure you stand by opinion and so do the millions of Filipinos who believe their guy has never lost.

Correct.

[Robi13]

He named Qawi

Qawi never was a world champ at 168. He was champ at light heavy and cruiser and is in the hof but isn’t an ATG, not even close. Him being in the hof is suspect as it is let alone being an ATG. Bread didn’t answer the question like I said.

[Poopdick]

Benavidez has sparred with Bivol. As Bread said, Benavidez speaks confidently about fighting him and it’s likely because he knows something from those sessions.

yeah alot of these guys "speak confidently". but in reality look like fools chasing attention... we shall see (maybe)

[buge]

Qawi never was a world champ at 168. He was champ at light heavy and cruiser and is in the hof but isn’t an ATG, not even close. Him being in the hof is suspect as it is let alone being an ATG. Bread didn’t answer the question like I said.

The question was "How many champs at 168 and 175 have ever seen who were only 5’9”?" not can he name an ATG at that weight and height. The question was about shorter fighters not being able to be champs at higher weights.

Bread responding with a champ at 175 (and 200) makes the question about a champ at 168 irrelevant, because obviously if someone at a short height can be champ at 175, then someone at that height can also be champ at a lighter weight.

[Robi13]

The question was "How many champs at 168 and 175 have ever seen who were only 5’9”?" not can he name an ATG at that weight and height. The question was about shorter fighters not being able to be champs at higher weights.

Bread responding with a champ at 175 (and 200) makes the question about a champ at 168 irrelevant, because obviously if someone at a short height can be champ at 175, then someone at that height can also be champ at a lighter weight.

I read it as 168 and 175… not 168 or 175