Comments Thread For: Hearn Confirms Wilder's Offer of $50 Million For Joshua - But Explains Contract Was Never Sent

[thack]

This fight has certainly lost it’s gloss but it’s one that most boxing fans would like to see. Even the posters who comment negatively on every Joshua vs Wilder article clearly want to see it. To say that either Joshua or Wilder are scared of one another is laughable.

They are not scared that's for sure but they are advised to seek easier routes , that by now , six years down the line is obvious.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Regarding the terms vs contract - if Hearn said send the contract, that means he was OK with the terms in principle.

It should mean that, but it doesn't mean that. They kept asking Hearn if he found the broad terms acceptable and he refused to confirm.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Maybe we will get a Joshua Wilder exhibition match in 2033. By then they will both agree to just get in there and have some fun for the fans, no big shots.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

It should mean that, but it doesn't mean that. They kept asking Hearn if he found the broad terms acceptable and he refused to confirm.

Bro. Hearn said send the contract. At that point they start negotiating. If the broad terms were idiotic, Hearn would have said, you aren't being serious.

I mean I can send Hearn a contract telling him I have 20 million Joshua to go 12 with me. You think he is going to say, ok, send the contract. Asking for the contract would not have happened if the offer were absurd.

[Rockenator]

IF they fight it will be a huge PPV success even without a championship belt on the line. There is such a polarization of Wilder and Joshua fans with both sides thinking that the other guy cannot beat their guy, that ticket sales and a large PPV audience is built into the event. Being a Wilder fan, I believe he'll win by a violent knockout. I suppose that Joshua fans believe the exact opposite.

If the 50 million number is true, Joshua should have taken it. Of course, it would be his swan song on the canvas with not many fight options afterwards. But what's the point in taking rum-dum fights for chump change UNLESS he's hoping for a shot at the Fury/Usyk winner (and hoping that will be Fury as Joshua has already come up short against Uysk.) Joshua's fights against Eurotr@sh boxers is getting old.

[OldTerry]

If the 50 million number is true, Joshua should have taken it. Of course, it would be his swan song on the canvas with not many fight options afterwards. But what's the point in taking rum-dum fights for chump change UNLESS he's hoping for a shot at the Fury/Usyk winner (and hoping that will be Fury as Joshua has already come up short against Uysk.) Joshua's fights against Eurotr@sh boxers is getting old.

Agreed. Joshua is probably looking for a fight against Fury, assuming Fury Beats Usyk. Keep in mind that Fury and Usyk have a rematch clause, so In the interim though it leaves Joshua and Wilder both with the opportunity to make many millions fighting each other, If Joshua doesn't fight Wilder, it says to me that he does indeed fear Wilder and is willing to gamble by giving up a sure thing moneywise in the hopes that Fury beats Usyk.

[ShoulderRoll]

Hearn should have said that he agreed to the terms of Joshua receiving $50 million.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Bro. Hearn said send the contract. At that point they start negotiating. If the broad terms were idiotic, Hearn would have said, you aren't being serious.

I mean I can send Hearn a contract telling him I have 20 million Joshua to go 12 with me. You think he is going to say, ok, send the contract. Asking for the contract would not have happened if the offer were absurd.

Except Hearn was trying to be sneaky.

In any normal circumstance (and I've been negotiating fights for decades), you agree to broad terms FIRST, normally in a one or two page deal memo or MOA, then the lawyers hammer out a long form contract.

Hearn refused to say one way or the other whether he found the term sheet agreeable. He was playing weird games. Nobody bothers to put together a long form contract BEFORE money has been agreed to. Hearn knows how fights are negotiated. He's not ******. He was just posturing for the fans.

[N/A]

I love the excuse "they didn't send the contract, but I wanted the fight". What is missing in all of those cases is "I wanted the fight, but I didn't offer any contract".

[Ragga1]

They are not scared that's for sure but they are advised to seek easier routes , that by now , six years down the line is obvious.

I would agree on Wilder’s side that they avoided it, he had no unification fights and never attempted to get one. Joshua’s aim was to become unified champion, they had made offers to fight Wilder (which were repeatedly turned down and one of which was confirmed by Wilder) and made a fight with Fury (which collapsed on Fury’s side).