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  • #21
    Originally posted by TonyRespectful View Post

    Stop with your racist and nationalistic crap.It's Boxing, not actual war,snowflake.
    That's funny, you didn't accuse the one i responded to with racism? Why's that?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by MesicoFistology View Post

      Or like when Devin Haney lost most rounds and almost got stopped by Lomachenko and only blk people saw Haney win lmao
      Yes, Black Americans do the exact same when it comes to their fighters. Although at least Haney/Loma was actually close. Unlike the Navarrete fight.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

        Do you need help, would you like to talk about it? I get the sense something terrible was done to you or your boyfriend or perhaps another relative maybe your mum or sis by a Mexican. On behalf of that individual, we apologize, if you’d like to talk about it, I’m here. Stay strong
        Read who i was replying to. It makes perfect sense when you do that. But if you're biased, you pretend otherwise.

        Would you like to give me 5 rounds in which Navarrete won? Or are you going to deflect and throw fallacies around as well? Think about it. If Navarrete didn't lose, it should be easy. But here's the thing... He was dominated. Out-landed in practically every round. What would you say if a Mexican won like that but was ripped off? We both know, don't we. I've seen far too many of your posts to forget. Like i've seen too many from the rest of them. But here they are like the hypocrites they are. Justifying it all. Haha. You couldn't make this up. But that's what happens in cult-like environments.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Elheath View Post
          Its one thing if the boxers who actually fought were complaining about the result and the fans were agreeing about how their guy got shafted, but the fact is that both fighters seems like they enjoyed the fight and didn't have any complaints for the result and looking forward to a rematch makes those making a fuss about it seem pathetic. Not only that, both fighters believe that a second one will be even more entertaining and a better fight than this one, which was already the best fight that night (especially compared to the dullness of the "main" event..). Heck, Haney and Loma could certainly have used a willingness to have an immediate rematch.

          I think the most idiotic thing is that the few that are making the biggest fuss in this thread doesn't seem like they are even actually a fan of either boxer, but just want to use the case to diss on certain countries. Doubt they would care to even open the topic if it was about the result of a fight that was between a Satoru Tanaka and Yuta Miyake held in Japan.
          You clearly missed it when Conceicao voiced his displeasure at being ripped off again. So what you're saying isn't actually true in any way. Just like those corrupt score cards.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            Read who i was replying to. It makes perfect sense when you do that. But if you're biased, you pretend otherwise.

            Would you like to give me 5 rounds in which Navarrete won? Or are you going to deflect and throw fallacies around as well? Think about it. If Navarrete didn't lose, it should be easy. But here's the thing... He was dominated. Out-landed in practically every round. What would you say if a Mexican won like that but was ripped off? We both know, don't we. I've seen far too many of your posts to forget. Like i've seen too many from the rest of them. But here they are like the hypocrites they are. Justifying it all. Haha. You couldn't make this up. But that's what happens in cult-like environments.
            I don’t go by compuNOT “stats” that’s one, two I saw the fight a draw but since it was close I wouldn’t mind Navarrete getting the edge because he is the champion and you have to beat the champion decisively, i didn’t see Robson win decisively based on the two knocked downs and how they both looked at the end of the fight. Regardless if you agree with that or not, boxing has always been like that and I don’t see it changing anytime soon. I don’t have a problem with the draw, neither did either fighter as they both showed class (something you clearly lack) and were ok with the decision but we are supposed to feel it was a robbery because you say so? Please, who the phuck are you? Some salty hater? i didn’t score the fight live and haven’t rewatched it to be able to give you my official score which is irrelevant, just like your take is about boxing and much more important about a country and their people. Grow up brother, it’s not healthy to have that much negativity in you.
            Last edited by Robi13; 11-23-2023, 12:19 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

              I don’t go by compuNOT “stats” that’s one, two I saw the fight a draw but since it was close I wouldn’t mind Navarrete getting the edge because he is the champion and you have to beat the champion decisively, i didn’t see Robson win decisively based on the two knocked downs and how they both looked at the end of the fight. Regardless if you agree with that or not, boxing has always been like that and I don’t see it changing anytime soon. I don’t have a problem with the draw, neither did either fighter as they both showed class (something you clearly lack) and were ok with the decision but we are supposed to feel it was a robbery because you say so? Please, who the phuck are you? Some salty hater? i didn’t score the fight live and haven’t rewatched it to be able to give you my official score which is irrelevant, just like your take is about boxing and much more important about a country and their people. Grow up brother, it’s not healthy to have that much negativity in you.
              Then we're in agreement in ignoring compu-punch "Stats". I go by my own eyes and being able to point out each and every punch that lands on a scoring area by video evidence. So, where are the 5 rounds in which you can give to Navarrete?

              Wait, did you just say you didn't even score the fight? What???? That is priceless. Although, not surprising. Wow.

              The fight wasn't close. Conceicao won 9 of the 12 rounds. How is that close? They were clear rounds too as he was the only one landing a mass of punches.

              The "You have to beat the champion decisively" nonsense came from Americans who were justifying their mass corruption. You do not have to do a lot more to win a round against a champion. That is insane. But here's the thing... That is what Conceicao actually did. He landed a lot more. Therefore, even going by your own criteria to win a round, Conceicao did just that. Clearly out-land and win the rounds clearly.

              No one gets points for their opponent being tired. Especially if they're out-landing you. Another fallacy that is not part of the scoring criteria. But what does it say when the opponent that is tired is out-landing his opponent? Why didn't Navarrete step in and do more? What was his problem?

              Navarrete gets the 2 points for the KD's and no more. You do not automatically win due to 2 KD's in 2 different rounds and think it matters when it comes to scoring the other 10 rounds. It doesn't. You sound exactly like a Wilder fan here with this shlt.

              Conceicao did have a problem about the draw. He voiced that very clearly in saying he was robbed. Lying that he didn't won't change anything. It just means it's another way you've been exposed in trying to justify robberies to benefit Mexicans. But if it's the other way round, you change your tune big time.

              Stop calling people haters because they point out your corruption and justifying it. It's pathetic. How arrogant and backwards must you be to think like this? Not forgetting hypocritical.

              Score the fight and justify the robbery. If you don't, it proves that you can't. Therefore, you lose this discussion.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                Then we're in agreement in ignoring compu-punch "Stats". I go by my own eyes and being able to point out each and every punch that lands on a scoring area by video evidence. So, where are the 5 rounds in which you can give to Navarrete?

                Wait, did you just say you didn't even score the fight? What???? That is priceless. Although, not surprising. Wow.

                The fight wasn't close. Conceicao won 9 of the 12 rounds. How is that close? They were clear rounds too as he was the only one landing a mass of punches.

                The "You have to beat the champion decisively" nonsense came from Americans who were justifying their mass corruption. You do not have to do a lot more to win a round against a champion. That is insane. But here's the thing... That is what Conceicao actually did. He landed a lot more. Therefore, even going by your own criteria to win a round, Conceicao did just that. Clearly out-land and win the rounds clearly.

                No one gets points for their opponent being tired. Especially if they're out-landing you. Another fallacy that is not part of the scoring criteria. But what does it say when the opponent that is tired is out-landing his opponent? Why didn't Navarrete step in and do more? What was his problem?

                Navarrete gets the 2 points for the KD's and no more. You do not automatically win due to 2 KD's in 2 different rounds and think it matters when it comes to scoring the other 10 rounds. It doesn't. You sound exactly like a Wilder fan here with this shlt.

                Conceicao did have a problem about the draw. He voiced that very clearly in saying he was robbed. Lying that he didn't won't change anything. It just means it's another way you've been exposed in trying to justify robberies to benefit Mexicans. But if it's the other way round, you change your tune big time.

                Stop calling people haters because they point out your corruption and justifying it. It's pathetic. How arrogant and backwards must you be to think like this? Not forgetting hypocritical.

                Score the fight and justify the robbery. If you don't, it proves that you can't. Therefore, you lose this discussion.
                Ok I’ll play the game, but it’s more than just outlanding your opponent. It’s who lands the better punches the do most damage too, you know the “effective aggression” criteria which is the most important one of all. Look at their face and how Robson was out on his feet at the end of the 11th. But cool, I’ll score it. For sure your score has to be Navarrete wins the two rounds with the knockdowns and the 11th… so you’re telling me that he didn’t win not any other single round outside of those three correct? When all he needed to justify the draw was 2 out of the rest of those 9 rounds… if Robson won all other 9 clearly like you say fine that’s cool it’s justified but the thing is he didn’t, look at his face, look at Navarrete. You asking everyone to do scoring where is your score card? What rounds you give Navarrete? Don’t ask for sh.it without providing your card

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

                  Ok I’ll play the game, but it’s more than just outlanding your opponent. It’s who lands the better punches the do most damage too, you know the “effective aggression” criteria which is the most important one of all. Look at their face and how Robson was out on his feet at the end of the 11th. But cool, I’ll score it. For sure your score has to be Navarrete wins the two rounds with the knockdowns and the 11th… so you’re telling me that he didn’t win not any other single round outside of those three correct? When all he needed to justify the draw was 2 out of the rest of those 9 rounds… if Robson won all other 9 clearly like you say fine that’s cool it’s justified but the thing is he didn’t, look at his face, look at Navarrete. You asking everyone to do scoring where is your score card? What rounds you give Navarrete? Don’t ask for sh.it without providing your card
                  You do not score a round by looking at someone's face. Come on.

                  With the 2 KD rounds, Navarrete needs another 3 rounds to draw even with the other 7 going to Conceicao. If you can watch the fight and give me 3 other rounds outside of the KD rounds, then you'll prove your point in it being a draw. But you won't find them. But i'll be right here when you come back and give me those rounds.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                    You do not score a round by looking at someone's face. Come on.

                    With the 2 KD rounds, Navarrete needs another 3 rounds to draw even with the other 7 going to Conceicao. If you can watch the fight and give me 3 other rounds outside of the KD rounds, then you'll prove your point in it being a draw. But you won't find them. But i'll be right here when you come back and give me those rounds.
                    Rounds 1-3, 5,8,12 concienciao
                    Rounds 4, 6-7, 9-11 Navarrete

                    6-6 that’s a draw but with the 2 knocks downs I got Navarrete 114-112 and still!

                    but I’m not gonna sit here and cry about the draw, they can run it back. I expect Navarrete to stop him next time.


                    one judge had it 114-112 for Navarrete the other two 113-113 even so it’s was majority draw with the one that had an actual winner had it for the champion Navarrete but you’re crying robbery? Please bro, stop it with that bs. There wasn’t no robbery. I had navarrette winning but the draw is fine.
                    Last edited by Robi13; 11-26-2023, 10:21 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

                      Rounds 1-3, 5,8,12 concienciao
                      Rounds 4, 6-7, 9-11 Navarrete

                      6-6 that’s a draw but with the 2 knocks downs I got Navarrete 114-112 and still!

                      but I’m not gonna sit here and cry about the draw, they can run it back. I expect Navarrete to stop him next time.


                      one judge had it 114-112 for Navarrete the other two 113-113 even so it’s was majority draw with the one that had an actual winner had it for the champion Navarrete but you’re crying robbery? Please bro, stop it with that bs. There wasn’t no robbery. I had navarrette winning but the draw is fine.
                      I'll get back to you on this as i've been busy lately. But i can assure you, Navarrete did not win most of the rounds given. I'll present the actual punch stats (I'll do it myself) and show you why Navarrete couldn't possibly win most of those rounds.

                      I'll give you the numbers tomorrow.

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