Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: Fury-Ngannou Has Probably Become One of The Most Talked About Fights in History

[BillyBoxing]

Ngannou outboxed him. Think about it. The most significant exchange in that fight was the knockdown and how did it happen? Fury threw a one-two combo, Ngannou slipped to his left, did a catch and shot and landed a thunderous left hook counter. That was the best boxing move in the entire fight and it's Ngannou who pulled it off. That's outboxing. Then in round 8, again we have the second best sequences in the fight where Ngannou unleashed a barrage of combos on Fury. That was the second best example of boxing in the fight.

Compare that to Fury running around the ring throwing feints and pitty pat "stay away from me" jabs and having not one single moment where he even stunned Ngannou with a punch. Fury was outboxed. Ngannou looked like the Pro Boxer and Fury looked like the inexperienced mma guy for most of that fight.

You guys have been shocked by this fight and been losing it. Yes N'gannou soundly outboxed Fury in rounds 8 and 3. But there are 8 more rounds to win in that fight and Fury won most of them, because N'gannou hardly didn't do anything outside of round 3 and 8. And "pitty pat punches" beat "punching the air".

The main reason why N'gannou took the better of Fury in those exchange is because Francis has a better chin and is stronger, more powerfull, dude is 272 with a six pack, not chubby like Fury and his bamby legs. He has been knocking out guys in MMA and kickboxing for a while. He's not some NBA dude trying boxing. UFC fighters sparr boxers.

So what you mean I guess is N'gannou OUTGUNNED Fury, but Fury outboxed him. Saying that N'gannou looked more like a pro boxer is worrysome for a guy that has been posting here for 10 years.

Moving,feinting, jabbing is part of boxing.

You don't win a fight based on a good move or a knockdown unless your opponent does not beat the count.

I have not seen a single serious card from people Knowing boxing giving N'gannou more than 5 rounds. People gave 3,4 or 5 rounds to N'Gannou out of 10 while people gave Fury 5,6 or 7 rounds.

Fury outboxed him, but looked like sht and was hurt many times doing so.

[F!x]

You guys have been shocked by this fight and been losing it. Yes N'gannou soundly outboxed Fury in rounds 8 and 3. But there are 8 more rounds to win in that fight and Fury won most of them, because N'gannou hardly didn't do anything outside of round 3 and 8. And "pitty pat punches" beat "punching the air".

The main reason why N'gannou took the better of Fury in those exchange is because Francis has a better chin and is stronger, more powerfull, dude is 272 with a six pack, not chubby like Fury and his bamby legs. He has been knocking out guys in MMA and kickboxing for a while. He's not some NBA dude trying boxing. UFC fighters sparr boxers.

So what you mean I guess is N'gannou OUTGUNNED Fury, but Fury outboxed him. Saying that N'gannou looked more like a pro boxer is worrysome for a guy that has been posting here for 10 years.

Moving,feinting, jabbing is part of boxing.

You don't win a fight based on a good move or a knockdown unless your opponent does not beat the count.

I have not seen a single serious card from people Knowing boxing giving N'gannou more than 5 rounds. People gave 3,4 or 5 rounds to N'Gannou out of 10 while people gave Fury 5,6 or 7 rounds.

Fury outboxed him, but looked like sht and was hurt many times doing so.

Moving, feinting and jabbing are part of boxing but you missed the point. Doing those things in an effective way where you land the better shots and nullify your opponents work is the key. Fury didn't do that at any point in the fight. He was moving, feinting and jabbing primarily to keep away from Ngannou. He was fighting scared since round 3.

Consider the 4 criteria for judging.. Clean, effective punches. Ring generalship. Effective Aggression. Defense.
Ngannou beat Fury in literally every single department. Yes, even defense. Ngannou slipped a lot of Fury's punches or parried them. And just look at Fury's face at the end of the fight, compared to Ngannou. One of them looked like they'd been in a real fight, the other one looked like he'd been on a family vacation to Disneyland.

And talking about the scorecards, consider the fact that the 3 official judges only unanimously agreed on Fury winning 3 rounds. Round 5,6 and 9. Every other round at least one judge scored for Ngannou. Fury was made to look like a B-level fighter at times in that fight. Sometimes he was clumsily falling into trying to clinch Ngannou out of fear and desperation. He was dropped once officially, and arguably a second time which wasn't counted. And he used an intentional illegal elbow which should have resulted in a point taken off. Ngannou won the fight with surprising ease.

[57Blues]

It's a huge success whether you want to deny it or not.

yours and most peoples defintion of success is dif and outside the realm of the conversation of this forum or topic. ..............another words in boxing talk i do not agree with you, therefore you are ****** know not what you talk about, should listen more then you talk, go punch yourself in the head in the morning etc..... just kidding trying to make a point is all.

[BillyBoxing]

Moving, feinting and jabbing are part of boxing but you missed the point. Doing those things in an effective way where you land the better shots and nullify your opponents work is the key. Fury didn't do that at any point in the fight. He was moving, feinting and jabbing primarily to keep away from Ngannou. He was fighting scared since round 3.

Consider the 4 criteria for judging.. Clean, effective punches. Ring generalship. Effective Aggression. Defense.
Ngannou beat Fury in literally every single department. Yes, even defense. Ngannou slipped a lot of Fury's punches or parried them. And just look at Fury's face at the end of the fight, compared to Ngannou. One of them looked like they'd been in a real fight, the other one looked like he'd been on a family vacation to Disneyland.

And talking about the scorecards, consider the fact that the 3 official judges only unanimously agreed on Fury winning 3 rounds. Round 5,6 and 9. Every other round at least one judge scored for Ngannou. Fury was made to look like a B-level fighter at times in that fight. Sometimes he was clumsily falling into trying to clinch Ngannou out of fear and desperation. He was dropped once officially, and arguably a second time which wasn't counted. And he used an intentional illegal elbow which should have resulted in a point taken off. Ngannou won the fight with surprising ease.

"N'gannou won with ease" is a ****** statement. Saying that he won in every department is clearly overreaching. It was a close fight, hence the SD.

As a matter of a fact N'gannou lost.

I don't care if Fury had a blackeye. The rules don't say" the fighter with more bruises lose".

You are not being objective so there is no point in arguing more. It's not interesing, you will downplay anything that Fury did and pimp any N'gannou move so it's pointless.

[F!x]

"N'gannou won with ease" is a ****** statement. Saying that he won in every department is clearly overreaching. It was a close fight, hence the SD.

As a matter of a fact N'gannou lost.

I don't care if Fury had a blackeye. The rules don't say" the fighter with more bruises lose".

You are not being objective so there is no point in arguing more. It's not interesing, you will downplay anything that Fury did and pimp any N'gannou move so it's pointless.

You overlooked all the substantial points and focused on a few small throwaway comments. Fury didn't do anything of note in that fight. Ngannou had all of the significant memorable moments of success, Fury didn't have a single stand out moment. Granted, some of the rounds were close, that's why the 3 official judges only gave Fury 3 rounds unanimously. Rds 5, 6, 9. It could easily be argued that Fury only won those 3 rds in the fight. That's why it could be said "Ngannou won with ease". But hey it's just another robbery which we're used to in boxing. No way they're giving Ngannou a decision with the Usyk-Fury fight already signed.

[hugh grant]

Fury won the decision. But Francis won the story. Not going down and downing fury and able to go 12 rounds.