To be honest, there is no big 4 at heavyweight division

[JakeTheBoxer]

Fury just actually lost to a novice.

Joshua struggled with Franklin.

Usyk actually got stopped by Dubois.

Wilder was last seen being stopped twice, badly. I don`t even count his 1 round sparring season.

Saying these guys are top 4 is just crazy, I could also say that Jared Anderson, Zhang, Joyce and Hrgovic are big 4, for example.

[dan-b]

It benefits them to be characterised that way, but you're right. They're all semi-retired and looking for big pay days. I don't know how people even have the energy to talk about AJ - Wilder anymore. If it happens, great. I'll watch one of them get knocked out. But it's well past its sell by date. Let's face it, assuming Fury turns up for an Usyk fight on a new date TBA, the winner won't be around for long anyway and new lineage will need to be established.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

On the other hand though… 4 biggest stars, 4 biggest draws, 4 fighters that have achieved the most in the division.

[GrandpaBernard]

This heavyweight era is a joke

you had a fat guy eat all of his success away

the pretty boy Golden child of the division Joshua isn’t very good

Fury is crazy and inconsistent

Deontay seems done with boxing

Usyk is the one fighter who serious about boxing

[BKM-]

Fury just actually lost to a novice.

Joshua struggled with Franklin.

Usyk actually got stopped by Dubois.

Wilder was last seen being stopped twice, badly. I don`t even count his 1 round sparring season.

Saying these guys are top 4 is just crazy, I could also say that Jared Anderson, Zhang, Joyce and Hrgovic are big 4, for example.

Fury had an off night against a superior striker, not boxer.

Usyk got hit with a low blow and then stopped Dubois.

Wilder got some confidence back with a HL KO.

Joshua is back to winning.

See how easy it is to flip the narrative when you're only thinking in extremes?

[hugh grant]

If we can't get the supposed top 4 to have fought each other then we got problems. That's why we really call them top 4 really, as no-one else from no6 through to no10 can get a fight with them until top 4 fought each other.
So they're holding things up

[GrandpaBernard]

Heavyweight would carry boxing if they fought each other faster

nearly all of the heavies are native English speakers

[dan-b]

TBRB have dropped Wilder from the rankings for inactivity anyway.

[GrandpaBernard]

TBRB have dropped Wilder from the rankings for inactivity anyway.

I don’t think he’s the same after two taxing losses to Fury

[HeadShots]

The big 4 are using this strategy to create the smoke and mirrors

They are not fighting any dangerous contenders for almost a decade. Just holding up the division.


4 spots in the top 5. Won’t any any newcomers take their spot


boxing is a joke.