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  • #31
    Zhang has 2 nice wins, but shouldn't be avoiding a 41 year old. That's embarassing. Maybe the Joyce win is even better than some think.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by HeadShots View Post



      he won 15-11.

      it was a close contest. ZZ was 50 lbs lighter and very unskilled due to Chinese boxing coaching staff are garbage.


      now it would be a different fight. he would buzz Joshua with anything he throws due to the additional weight now.
      Both fighters have got better since then....

      Zhang hasn't fought anyone the level that Joshua has. He did exactly what everyone else did to Joe Joyce - except his shots actually hurt Joyce. My whole point is if Zhang wants a top guy he should fight someone inbetween first. Why would AJ fight Zhang? It's lose-lose for him.

      I get the fan boy Zhang thing. But you get that with every fighter on the way up. Even Joyce had that too... until he didn't

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

        Both fighters have got better since then....

        Zhang hasn't fought anyone the level that Joshua has. He did exactly what everyone else did to Joe Joyce - except his shots actually hurt Joyce. My whole point is if Zhang wants a top guy he should fight someone inbetween first. Why would AJ fight Zhang? It's lose-lose for him.

        I get the fan boy Zhang thing. But you get that with every fighter on the way up. Even Joyce had that too... until he didn't



        Joshua got knocked out by a 5’11 fat Mexican.


        Joyce is better than any Joshua beat in his entire pro career. 42 yo Wlad would get stopped by Joyce.
        Last edited by HeadShots; 10-21-2023, 02:56 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
          Joyce is better than any Joshua beat in his entire pro career. 42 yo Wlad would get stopped by Joyce.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post



            Wlad would be 50/50 against Dubois and Parker at 42.

            Joyce stops him

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            • #36
              Originally posted by HeadShots View Post



              Wlad would be 50/50 against Dubois and Parker at 42.

              Joyce stops him
              Joyce is super slow, has no defence and couldn't beat old Zhang, there's no reason to think he beats old wlad.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

                Joyce is super slow, has no defence and couldn't beat old Zhang, there's no reason to think he beats old wlad.


                Wlad get stopped mid-late. Glass jaw. No gas tank

                He couldn’t even KO Joshua after landing multiple right hands. He ain’t knocking out Joyce whose chin is 10X sturdier.

                Ruiz knocked out Joshua lmdao


                What did speed do for Dubois, Jennings, Takam and Parker?

                Joyce batters him. His usual clinch game won’t even work. Joyce would be just as tall and stronger
                Last edited by HeadShots; 10-21-2023, 04:45 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bullydean View Post
                  Nothing new. Wilder, AJ, and Andy are waiting for their shot at a Fury or Usyk paycheck while Zhang and Hrogvic are staying active for a title shot.
                  The IBF will probably be vacated by the winner of Fury vs Usyk so Hrogvic will probably become champion.
                  Zhang will be left out for 1-2 years and Zhang is desperate for a title shot so I imagine he will be a tough opponent for any of his tune up opponents.
                  Yep. More or less agree with all of this. AJ is not trying to take an L unless its a big money fight vs Deontay most likely.

                  AJ, like most guys who have gotten as big as he's gotten, are more a business than a boxer. AJ is trying to maximize his money more than he's worried about losing or getting KTFO. And for sure Zhang has shown he's a risk to beat top guys. I have zero doubt after AJ gets that big Deontay or Fury $$$ he'll fight Zhang, but he's not gonna risk losing a lesser fight when a bigger fight is in play.

                  Sucks for Zhang, but it is what it is.

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