Comments Thread For: Hearn Targets Benn-Eubank For December 23, Still in Talks For Joshua-Wilder

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They were supposed to fight when they had all the belts too not like this is the first time this has gone on for what 5 years or something getting a bit silly now. If he doesn't want to fight Wilder than he should just stop talking about it because it makes him look bad time and time again because most people feel Joshua is scared of Wilder.

What were both Joshua and Wilder doing during those years? Wilder & Fury both fought each other to avoid Joshua 'This is common knowledge, to anyone who is honest'.

Wilder believed Fury would be a stylistically easier fight 'A non power punching Heavyweight, who on record to date back then? Was only really going to attempt to out box him'.

Fury also believed Wilder would be a stylistically easier fight, Wilder was a power puncher 'But skill for skill, in terms of actual boxing was nowhere near Fury's level'.

Joshua before his loss to Ruiz Junior I, was regarded as a power puncher, game and a extremely capable boxer.

Joshua has throughout his entire career has fought more dangerous fighters consistently than Wilder 'Wilder would not fight Kiltschko'.

I am not saying Wilder is afraid, but there is more evidence of him being historically more apprehensive of Joshua.

Note: I rate Wilder as a fighter extremely highly within this era, but he has been beaten up and ****** out by a fighter in Fury who 'Has never at any point in his career been a monster puncher'.

Joshua has never been ****** out mate, he has no real bad loses on his resume 'Joshua was stopped once on his feet with a smile on his face vs Ruiz Junior I, and then lost two competitive fights back to back vs Usyk'.

Wilder in comparison, although I don't think his rematch with Fury II should of been stopped 'Wilder was battered'. And during the third fight once again, Wilder gave a great effort but 'Eventually he was ****** out mate' etc.

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What were both Joshua and Wilder doing during those years? Wilder & Fury both fought each other to avoid Joshua 'This is common knowledge, to anyone who is honest'.

Wilder believed Fury would be a stylistically easier fight 'A non power punching Heavyweight, who on record to date back then? Was only really going to attempt to out box him'.

Fury also believed Wilder would be a stylistically easier fight, Wilder was a power puncher 'But skill for skill, in terms of actual boxing was nowhere near Fury's level'.

Joshua before his loss to Ruiz Junior I, was regarded as a power puncher, game and a extremely capable boxer.

Joshua has throughout his entire career fought more dangerous fighters consistently than Wilder 'Wilder would not fight Kiltschko or Povetkin'.

I am not saying Wilder is afraid, but there is more evidence of him being historically more apprehensive of Joshua.

Note: I rate Wilder as a fighter extremely highly within this era, but he has been beaten up and ****** out by a fighter in Fury who 'Has never at any point in his career been a monster puncher'.

Joshua has never been ****** out mate, he has no real bad loses on his resume 'Joshua was stopped once on his feet with a smile on his face vs Ruiz Junior I, and then lost two competitive fights back to back vs Usyk'.

Wilder in comparison, although I don't think his rematch with Fury II should of been stopped 'Wilder was battered'. And during the third fight once again, Wilder gave a great effort but 'Eventually he was ****** out mate' etc.

Well we can all believe what we want fighting Fury to "avoid Joshua" makes 0 sense to me considering everybody who knows boxing knows that Fury is a much better fighter than Joshua will ever be so fighting the harder opponent to avoid the weaker of the 2 doesn't add up.

Even after the second fight where Fury totally destroyed Wilder they still had a 3rd fight showing Wilder has no fear he maybe a **** boxer and a one trick pony but i believe he has more heart/courage than Joshua so if anybody is avoiding anybody here i believe it's Joshua.

When was Fury ever knocked out before Wilder? Joshua got knocked down by a 3 year out the ring 40 + year out Wlad ffs lmao as i said originally people can believe what they want i'm no Joshua hater he's done well for himself but to believe he is avoided is absolute ludicrous.

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Well we can all believe what we want fighting Fury to "avoid Joshua" makes 0 sense to me considering everybody who knows boxing knows that Fury is a much better fighter than Joshua will ever be so fighting the harder opponent to avoid the weaker of the 2 doesn't add up.

Even after the second fight where Fury totally destroyed Wilder they still had a 3rd fight showing Wilder has no fear he maybe a **** boxer and a one trick pony but i believe he has more heart/courage than Joshua so if anybody is avoiding anybody here i believe it's Joshua.

When was Fury ever knocked out before Wilder? Joshua got knocked down by a 3 year out the ring 40 + year out Wlad ffs lmao as i said originally people can believe what they want i'm no Joshua hater he's done well for himself but to believe he is avoided is absolute ludicrous.

Wladimir Kiltschko never retired after being beaten by Fury, he initiated his rematch clause for Fury.

The time frame between Fury vs Kiltschko and Kiltschko vs Joshua was 17 months.

17 months is not 3 years. Why are you making things up? Why are you lying mate?

Explain to me why you have just lied about the time frame between Fury vs Kiltschko and Kiltschko vs Joshua?

Wladimir Kiltscko during that 17 month period, had to endure 3 back to back training camps 'Because Tyson Fury kept on pulling out of their scheduled rematch'.

You need to get the facts correct mate.

Anthony Joshua actually beat up and knocked out, a better conditioned more well prepared Wladimir Kiltschko than Tyson Fury 'Joshua beat the Kiltschko who Fury should of fought in their rematch'.

Wladimir Kiltschko was 240 pounds vs Joshua, compared to 245 pounds vs Fury 'In Kiltschko's own expert opinion, he was better prepared for Joshua'.

Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years 'Joshua was decked by a all-time Heavyweight Champion, but he got up. This add's to Joshua resume, it does not take away from it'.

Tyson Fury has been knocked down more times than all of the top 4 Heavyweights 'Fury has been decked by fighters that were non power punchers like USS Cunningham, and he was effectively knocked out by Wilder during their first fight'.

Note: Wilder has been ****** out and decked by a non power punching Heavyweight in Fury 'And Fury has been decked the most times out of all the top Heavyweights' They are the facts mate.

I have always stated on these forums, that hardcore Fury fans need to lie and betray themselves on a weekly basis 'In order to be hardcore Fury fans'. This thread and the post up above, is a classic example of this from one of those hardcore fans etc.

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Wladimir Kiltschko never retired after being beaten by Fury, he initiated his rematch clause for Fury.

The time frame between Fury vs Kiltschko and Kiltschko vs Joshua was 17 months.

17 months is not 3 years. Why are you making things up? Why are you lying mate?

Explain to me why you have just lied about the time frame between Fury vs Kiltschko and Kiltschko vs Joshua?

Wladimir Kiltscko during that 17 month period, had to endure 3 back to back training camps 'Because Tyson Fury kept on pulling out of their scheduled rematch'.

You need to get the facts correct mate.

Anthony Joshua actually beat up and knocked out, a better conditioned more well prepared Wladimir Kiltschko than Tyson Fury 'Joshua beat the Kiltschko who Fury should of fought in their rematch'.

Wladimir Kiltschko was 240 pounds vs Joshua, compared to 245 pounds vs Fury 'In Kiltschko's own expert opinion, he was better prepared for Joshua'.

Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years 'Joshua was decked by a all-time Heavyweight Champion, but he got up. This add's to Joshua resume, it does not take away from it'.

Tyson Fury has been knocked down more times than all of the top 4 Heavyweights 'Fury has been decked by fighters that were non power punchers like USS Cunningham, and he was effectively knocked out by Wilder during their first fight'.

Note: Wilder has been ****** out and decked by a non power punching Heavyweight in Fury 'And Fury has been decked the most times out of all the top Heavyweights' They are the facts mate.

I have always stated on these forums, that hardcore Fury fans need to lie and betray themselves on a weekly basis 'In order to be hardcore Fury fans'. This thread and this post up above, is a classic example of this from one of these hardcore fans etc.

Regardless 17 months out of the ring and being 41 years old is a long time so the fact he nearly lost that fight tells you everything Fury barely got touched.

Better conditioned and prepared btw even though he was under 40 when he fought Fury but 41 when he fought Joshua make it make sense not to mention Wlad had a fight 7 months before fury not over a year and a half off, you're just twisting narratives to make your agenda makes sense but logically it doesn't make sense at all. The fight was so good because Joshua was on the same level as a 41 year old ex champion how exactly is that a plus for Joshua?

He got knocked down so much because he was in the ring with the heaviest puncher in the game plus he was on his comeback in the first fight, if Joshua ever fights Wilder i will be shocked if he makes it out the 6th round never mind going over 30 rounds with him.

I'm not a "hardcore fury fan" he's my favourite heavyweight yeah but i don't fanboy for anybody i just go off the facts it's Joshua fan boys who have to twist narratives and make up **** to make him seem better than he is but ultimately that was his downfall he didn't live up the hype his casual fanbase hyped him up to be.

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Regardless 17 months out of the ring and being 41 years old is a long time so the fact he nearly lost that fight tells you everything Fury barely got touched.

Better conditioned and prepared btw even though he was under 40 when he fought Fury but 41 when he fought Joshua make it make sense not to mention Wlad had a fight 7 months before fury not over a year and a half off, you're just twisting narratives to make your agenda makes sense but logically it doesn't make sense at all. The fight was so good because Joshua was on the same level as a 41 year old ex champion how exactly is that a plus for Joshua?

He got knocked down so much because he was in the ring with the heaviest puncher in the game plus he was on his comeback in the first fight, if Joshua ever fights Wilder i will be shocked if he makes it out the 6th round never mind going over 30 rounds with him.

I'm not a "hardcore fury fan" he's my favourite heavyweight yeah but i don't fanboy for anybody i just go off the facts it's Joshua fan boys who have to twist narratives and make up **** to make him seem better than he is but ultimately that was his downfall he didn't live up the hype his casual fanbase hyped him up to be.

Fury barely touched Kiltschko, never decked him or beat him up 'Kiltschko backed Fury up all night, to be honest? Skill for skill is a overrated win for Fury'. It is a great win in terms of historical magnitude for Fury 'But the actual action inside the ring, it is overrated'.

Not matter how hard you try to demean Joshua's performance vs Kiltschko 'It was that win which completely transcended the Heavyweight division into a new era, the post Kiltschko era. Mega stadium fight, and the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

Joshua was decked because he fought Kiltschko very aggressive, he committed to that sort of fight 'Nothing wrong with that, overall Joshua's win was more conclusive than Fury's, Joshua knocked Kiltschko out mate'.

So you admit that Kiltschko was not retied for 3 years, so you admit that you was blatantly lying in one of your previous post.

So you are a hardcore Fury fan, today is Friday 'And you have just lied, and completely made things ups',

I am going to say it again, and I have said it many times before in this forum.

To be a hardcore Fury fan, you need to lie and betray yourself on a weekly basis.

You have proved that statement right, you have proved that observational trait today to be correct etc.

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Fury barely touched Kiltschko, never decked him or beat him up 'Kiltschko backed Fury up all night, to be honest? Skill for skill is a overrated win for Fury'. It is a great win in terms of historical magnitude for Fury 'But the actual action inside the ring, it is overrated'.

Not matter how hard you try to demean Joshua's performance vs Kiltschko 'It was that win which completely transcended the Heavyweight division into a new era, the post Kiltschko era. Mega stadium fight, and the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

Joshua was decked because he fought Kiltschko very aggressive, he committed to that sort of fight 'Nothing wrong with that, overall Joshua's win was more conclusive than Fury's, Joshua knocked Kiltschko out mate'.

So you admit that Kiltschko was not retied for 3 years, so you admit that you was blatantly lying in one of your previous post.

So you are a hardcore Fury fan, today is Friday 'And you have just lied, and completely made things ups',

I am going to say it again, and I have said it many times before in this forum.

To be a hardcore Fury fan, you need to lie and betray yourself on a weekly basis.

You have proved that statement right, you have proved that observational trait today to be correct etc.

He did what he had to and come out of the fight with not a scratch on him opposed to Joshua who went life and death with a 41 year old man 17 months out of the ring last defeated/humiliated.

I didn't lie i just thought it was longer and didn't fact check there is a difference i have no reason to twist the truth because these are the facts, Joshua lost to a fat mexican who gave him the beating of his life, Joshua went life and death with a 41 year old man 17 months out of the ring, Joshua lost twice to a much smaller man in Usyk because he was too ***** to throw any punches and Fury is undefeated them are the cold hard facts.

You're the one blatantly lying with "better prepared and better conditioned" 41 year old man by the way lmao, So because I'm a Fury fan that suddenly makes me a fanboy? you won't see me going on every thread mentioning Fury jumping to his defense like you do with Joshua seems you are the bigger fan boy to me that's fine but don't act as if it's a one way street that just makes you a hypocrite.

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He did what he had to and come out of the fight with not a scratch on him opposed to Joshua who went life and death with a 41 year old man 17 months out of the ring last defeated/humiliated.

I didn't lie i just thought it was longer and didn't fact check there is a difference i have no reason to twist the truth because these are the facts, Joshua lost to a fat mexican who gave him the beating of his life, Joshua went life and death with a 41 year old man 17 months out of the ring, Joshua lost twice to a much smaller man in Usyk because he was too ***** to throw any punches and Fury is undefeated them are the cold hard facts.

You're the one blatantly lying with "better prepared and better conditioned" 41 year old man by the way lmao, So because I'm a Fury fan that suddenly makes me a fanboy? you won't see me going on every thread mentioning Fury jumping to his defense like you do with Joshua seems you are the bigger fan boy to me that's fine but don't act as if it's a one way street that just makes you a hypocrite.

I glad there's some one with the patience to reply to him...! Well done , he's a very odd one!

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He did what he had to and come out of the fight with not a scratch on him opposed to Joshua who went life and death with a 41 year old man 17 months out of the ring last defeated/humiliated.

I didn't lie i just thought it was longer and didn't fact check there is a difference i have no reason to twist the truth because these are the facts, Joshua lost to a fat mexican who gave him the beating of his life, Joshua went life and death with a 41 year old man 17 months out of the ring, Joshua lost twice to a much smaller man in Usyk because he was too ***** to throw any punches and Fury is undefeated them are the cold hard facts.

You're the one blatantly lying with "better prepared and better conditioned" 41 year old man by the way lmao, So because I'm a Fury fan that suddenly makes me a fanboy? you won't see me going on every thread mentioning Fury jumping to his defense like you do with Joshua seems you are the bigger fan boy to me that's fine but don't act as if it's a one way street that just makes you a hypocrite.

You lied mate. 3 years, is a completely different time scale to 17 months.

You completely made stuff up, lied to yourself 'You are still lying and betraying yourself right now'.

Why are you doing this mate? It is not scientifically impossible to improve biomarkers of fitness during a 17 month period at that stage of Kiltschko's career.

Wladimir Kiltschko is a expert in his field, he has officially stated 'That he was better prepared for Joshua. This is the area of study, where Wladimir Kiltschko is a expert'.

That is what I am basing my statement off, along with the fact that he was 5 pounds lighter for the Joshua fight 'After enduring 3 back to back training camps'.

Wladimir Kiltschko had to endure 3 back to back training camps, he never retied 'Tyson Fury kept on pulling out of their scheduled rematch unfortunately'.

Note: Anyone who is honest, can see that you have lied and made stuff up on this thread. And even now you are continuing to lie and betray yourself 'Whatever you are trying to do here in this thread and debate, you cannot win or take the higher ground'.

I have proven and highlighted the complete and utter lies, made up history which you have tried to play off on this thread as fact.

I have stated all that really needs to be stated from my perspective etc.

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You lied mate. 3 years, is a completely different time scale to 17 months.

You completely made stuff up, lied to yourself 'You are still lying and betraying yourself right now'.

Why are you doing this mate? It is not scientifically impossible to improve biomarkers of fitness during a 17 month period at that stage of Kiltschko's career.

Wladimir Kiltschko is a expert in his field, he has officially stated 'That he was better prepared for Joshua. This is the area of study, where Wladimir Kiltschko is a expert'.

That is what I am basing my statement off, along with the fact that he was 5 pounds lighter for the Joshua fight 'After enduring 3 back to back training camps'.

Wladimir Kiltschko had to endure 3 back to back training camps, he never retied 'Tyson Fury kept on pulling out of their scheduled rematch unfortunately'.

Note: Anyone who is honest, can see that you have lied and made stuff up on this thread. And even now you are continuing to lie and betray yourself 'Whatever you are trying to do here in this thread and debate, you cannot win or take the higher ground'.

I have proven and highlighted the complete and utter lies, made up history which you have tried to play off on this thread as fact.

I have stated all that really needs to be stated from my perspective etc.

You got nothing that's why you are so fixated on the 17 months thing i said even at 17 months how is that more prepared than 7 months last fought and under 40 as opposed to 41? He would say that because he embarrassed himself in the Fury fight and got humiliated.

Nah i got one fact wrong which you are fixated on and i don't think it matters all that much 10 months 20 months the dude was 41 years old out of the ring for over a year and half but you keep telling yourself what you need to i don't really care.