Comments Thread For: Arum: Date Of Fury-Usyk Depends Primarily On Fury's Condition After This Ngannou Fight

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  • boxingitis
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    #31
    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

    But didn't he sign a 3rd fight with Wilder and then instead tried to sign a fight with Joshua to the point where we though he *was* fighting Joshua?? He was also signed to rematch Wlad but then decided to "retire". Fury can always find a way out.

    All he has to do is say Usyk is trash and not worth fighting and give up his belts. His fans love that stuff. Or his promoter will say he is mentally ill. Something like that. He could have already fought Usyk or AJ if he wanted it.
    So why hasn't Joshua fought Wilder? Wilder didn't have an issue with Fury.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Originally posted by Pigeons
      Just watched Ngannou-Lewis. 15 minutes of pure stand-up MMA. Sweet science. Fury better watch out.
      LOL. A lot of ppl call that the worst fight in MMA history. Weird azz fight. I think Ngannou was a lil fooked up coming off his first L & Lewis was happy Ngannou wasn't being his usual self & didn't wanna have a war with him anyway if he didn't have too.

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      • James
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        #33
        Originally posted by Pigeons
        Just watched Ngannou-Lewis. 15 minutes of pure stand-up MMA. Sweet science. Fury better watch out.
        MMA has nothing in common with boxing. End!

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        • Roberto Vasquez
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          #34
          Originally posted by boxingitis

          So why hasn't Joshua fought Wilder? Wilder didn't have an issue with Fury.
          Wilder himself said that Joshua offered him more money than Fury did but he chose Fury. When you realize that Joshua had all the other belts at the time - this says a lot about Wilder that he chose to fight a guy who had been overweight and retired for 2 years instead of possibly unifying the titles.

          And he was due to fight Wilder this year until the backers backed out

          One thing you can say about Joshua is he will fight anyone. He hasn't dodged anyone yet. You didn't see him ducking Usyk...

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bob
            Personally I'm just happy undesputed is finally happening for this generation.
            Back in 18 i started reading these online paper's to find out why it wasn't happening then. To my disgust i discovered promoter's had completely taken over & there was no more sport left in boxing. Just smoke & mirror's liar's running it all.

            Just be glad it happens.
            When is the fighting happening mate ? What was the agreement about?

            There is no official date or, location for the fight 'So this oh its happening talk from you, really has no validity'.

            The fight was announced agreed, to build hype to Fury's latest exhibition fight 'Nothing more'.

            I don't think anything has been agreed, of any real note 'Otherwise all the statistics would be out there for people to read'.

            Fury is backed into a corner, he has to fight ether Usyk or Zhang next if he wants to stay Champion 'I don't think Fury wanted this fight to happen, with this type of timing. There has been no surprise fight offers, no real disruption during negotiations. This is not historically how Fury has treated his nearest competition'.

            That is why? Now all of a sudden, the fight potentially is not happening when they said it would 'It is now subject to what what Fury's condition is after his latest exhibition fight'.

            Stop blaming the promoters mate, not everyone gushes and pines over the promoting side of the sport 'As Carl Froch, I believe it was Froch stated. A lot of fights in this modern era don't happen, because of the fighters'.

            Tyson Fury promotes himself, he is surrounded by front men 'That is the type of fighter Fury is, he will fight people when he wants to'.

            Note: That is no disrespect to Warren & Arum, but when it comes to Tyson Fury 'They are effectively his front men, Fury and his team decide when and who he wants to fight' etc.


            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-08-2023, 09:35 AM.

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            • boxingitis
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              #36
              Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

              Wilder himself said that Joshua offered him more money than Fury did but he chose Fury. When you realize that Joshua had all the other belts at the time - this says a lot about Wilder that he chose to fight a guy who had been overweight and retired for 2 years instead of possibly unifying the titles.

              And he was due to fight Wilder this year until the backers backed out

              One thing you can say about Joshua is he will fight anyone. He hasn't dodged anyone yet. You didn't see him ducking Usyk...
              I think Joshua didn't had a choice as Usyk was the mandatory.

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                #37
                Originally posted by boxingitis
                Is anyone going to give Top Rank credit when this happens.

                It's Bigger than Tanks vs Ryan, Bigger than Canelo vs Charlo, and might be bigger than Spence vs Crawford world wide.
                Top rank has nothing to do with putting it together . This very article Arum says he’s not involved and knows little until he here’s from the Saudis more . The Saudis are the ones who put the money up and sent Warren the offers , Arum is only a co promoter on ESPN platform that’s Furys contract .

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                • Roberto Vasquez
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by boxingitis

                  I think Joshua didn't had a choice as Usyk was the mandatory.
                  He could have retired like Fury did to avoid his contracted rematch with Wlad. Especially since he did that after saying "He is scared, he will never take the rematch". Seems like only one person was scared. Also Fury took PEDs around that time. Lacking confidence....

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