Could Crawford Even Beat Demetrius Andrade @ 160-168?

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  • paulf
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    #21
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Do you lot understand what weight classes are, or what?

    Why is this constant nonsense being talked about between fighters who are 2 and 3 weight classes apart from each other?
    Fans who only think about boxing through the lens of Manny Pacquiao.

    I say it all the time - 99% of world-class fighters are world-class in one or two weight classes for a couple years only. Even guys that are the exception to that, like Canelo who is a three weight champion, only has a belt in that third class because he moved up to catch a guy at just the right time.

    Whenever you see a guy dominate a weight class for years, then move up and look bad or have a bad fight as they decline, you'll see fans will expose themselves when they say "See? He got exposed. He was never any good."

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      #22
      Originally posted by Daccan

      One guy went up a weight class and got 8 stoppages in a row. Andrade went up to 168 and might get stopped by Benavidez. If we're going off either p4p or accolades it's pretty logical.
      ​Literally doesn't even make any sense. P4P is a mythical list. It's marketed as the 10 best fighters in boxing when it's not even that. Just because he would be higher on some list doesn't mean he can actually beat him in a real fight tf lol.

      Let's talk accolades who Bud beat for them accolades that can do anything with Andrade? Or do you need to see it cause it's not obvious to you? Spence? I remember when he felt like moving up for Canelo but he coincidentally didn't feel like that for Andrade. Not that any of that matters.

      He might get stopped based off your opinion. He also might stop David based off somebody else's. See how that works? 60 to 68 is one of the largest weight jumps in boxing. Bud also fights in 8 oz. gloves. It's sooo many factors that are omitted that play a role in the outcome I'd be here all day. Are you even sure that Spence at 47 is as good as Benavidez at 68? Cause I'm not.
      Originally posted by _Rexy_

      Yeah you're right. Andrade is better than Bud because of what happened in the amateurs, fifteen years ago. Everyone from 154 to 168 has been terrified of Demetrius "trips over my own feet and would go 12 rounds with a broom" Andrade.
      *Ignores Bud saying Canelo shied away from black fighters.

      *Ignores Bo Mac saying Canelo wouldn't fight Andrade.

      *Ignores why professionals say something different than "fans."

      *Open question was asked to name a proven 47 or 54 that would mention they would go up for Andrade. Couldn't do it.

      This sounds personal. Then you're putting words in my mouth as if what I said wasn't written. Kinda feminine, gee willikers Rexy if you're mad you're not better than the broom you speak of just say that then.​

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        #23
        Originally posted by MPDKSAB
        ​Literally doesn't even make any sense. P4P is a mythical list. It's marketed as the 10 best fighters in boxing when it's not even that. Just because he would be higher on some list doesn't mean he can actually beat him in a real fight tf lol.

        Let's talk accolades who Bud beat for them accolades that can do anything with Andrade? Or do you need to see it cause it's not obvious to you? Spence? I remember when he felt like moving up for Canelo but he coincidentally didn't feel like that for Andrade. Not that any of that matters.

        He might get stopped based off your opinion. He also might stop David based off somebody else's. See how that works? 60 to 68 is one of the largest weight jumps in boxing. Bud also fights in 8 oz. gloves. It's sooo many factors that are omitted that play a role in the outcome I'd be here all day. Are you even sure that Spence at 47 is as good as Benavidez at 68? Cause I'm not.

        *Ignores Bud saying Canelo shied away from black fighters.

        *Ignores Bo Mac saying Canelo wouldn't fight Andrade.

        *Ignores why professionals say something different than "fans."

        *Open question was asked to name a proven 47 or 54 that would mention they would go up for Andrade. Couldn't do it.

        This sounds personal. Then you're putting words in my mouth as if what I said wasn't written. Kinda feminine, gee willikers Rexy if you're mad you're not better than the broom you speak of just say that then.​
        Not sure what your first three quotes have anything to do with. Your question is who could move up from 147 to 168 and beat Andrade? That's a ****** fking question, but Bud could.And yes sure, it's personal because I Think Andrade isn't as talented as his seven fans think he is. You're the feminine one getting offended for a grown man you've never met. Any former fighter who criticizes an active fighter must just be jealous. That's it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by SplitSecond
          I’d imagine the style matchup alone is more problematic here. Not that I have watched Andrade in years. Longer, heavier guy who likes to run and fight negatively. Why Wallin over Gassiev was such an easy pick. Short punching bag who looks for a haymaker vs a much longer and heavier guy who knows how to maintain range. That was an upset somehow.
          Andrade has a massive height advantage but apparently the same reach. His more compact ape index might make it easy for him to land short punches on the inside despite being so tall.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Daccan
            Terrance is talking about fighting Canelo but we saw how the size difference made it easy for Canelo to literally punch through Charlo's guard and put him down. Remember how Crawford pushed Spence around all night? He's not going to be doing a whole lot of that especially on the inside with a stockier and more compact body puncher like Canelo.

            It's obvious that weight matters, and Demetrius is also a right hand dominant southpaw too which combined with his size advantage could make Crawford look ordinary. Of course Crawford has sharpness and snap but we saw how Charlo's punches couldn't budge Canelo off his front foot.

            Would Crawford's skill be good enough to even beat Booboo who is definitely worse than him?
            People forget Crawf was an all American wrestler. He's a strong mofo. Everyone kept saying Spence is bigger/stronger, etc. They said same the same about Porter. He handled them. I think he'd do good at 160 due to his background. 168 is tougher to gauge but wouldnt put it past him.

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              #26
              Originally posted by _Rexy_

              Not sure what your first three quotes have anything to do with. Your question is who could move up from 147 to 168 and beat Andrade? That's a ****** fking question, but Bud could.And yes sure, it's personal because I Think Andrade isn't as talented as his seven fans think he is. You're the feminine one getting offended for a grown man you've never met. Any former fighter who criticizes an active fighter must just be jealous. That's it.
              When the hate don't work they start telling lies. Like I said my words are written. If Bud believed that he wouldn't have been targeting Canelo & Charlo SPECIFICALLY. Fortunately for you, we'll never see him lose to Andrade. If it's so personal cause your mad about his "7 fans", why you don't direct your attention to the guy who sounds like the biggest fan saying he's one of the most talented fighters he ever seen?

              More feminine stuff, you got called out for blatantly lying on me then you respond back with another lie wanting me to be offended (weird). Then you assume I never met someone (based off the fact you wanted to have a Boxingscene interaction with me), despite the fact you don't know me, never met me a day in your life but somehow someway you know who I met & haven't met.​

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              • satiev1
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                #27
                Styles make fights

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MPDKSAB
                  When the hate don't work they start telling lies. Like I said my words are written. If Bud believed that he wouldn't have been targeting Canelo & Charlo SPECIFICALLY. Fortunately for you, we'll never see him lose to Andrade. If it's so personal cause your mad about his "7 fans", why you don't direct your attention to the guy who sounds like the biggest fan saying he's one of the most talented fighters he ever seen?

                  More feminine stuff, you got called out for blatantly lying on me then you respond back with another lie wanting me to be offended (weird). Then you assume I never met someone (based off the fact you wanted to have a Boxingscene interaction with me), despite the fact you don't know me, never met me a day in your life but somehow someway you know who I met & haven't met.​
                  I'm not mad at his seven fans. I'm just surprised they've stuck around this long.


                  Okay, so you've met him and you're sticking up for him this hard. That makes you seem like less of a groupie, and more if a phaggot.
                  Of course we won't see Bud lose to Andrade. We get to see guys like Kessler, Quigley and Kautondokwa lose to Andrade. Much better
                  but yeah, you called me out all right. Pulled my card for criticizing a fighter.

                  You're so ****ing insecure.

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                    #29
                    Also, the irony of having a name like "Most People Don't Know **** About Boxing" and being a diehard Boo-Boo fan is not lost on me

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_

                      I'm not mad at his seven fans. I'm just surprised they've stuck around this long.


                      Okay, so you've met him and you're sticking up for him this hard. That makes you seem like less of a groupie, and more if a phaggot.
                      Of course we won't see Bud lose to Andrade. We get to see guys like Kessler, Quigley and Kautondokwa lose to Andrade. Much better
                      but yeah, you called me out all right. Pulled my card for criticizing a fighter.

                      You're so ****ing insecure.
                      I "pulled your card for criticizing a fighter", I'm "fùkìng insecure", I'm a "phaggot." But you wanted my attention which is why this interaction started. If I'm all that what that make you? The jokes write themselves. If you like a fighter based off actual skills & not some popularity metric thing, your doing something wrong is what I take from what you imply.

                      Nowadays great acronyms fall on blind eyes. The 1st two letters of my name so powerful. Time to close this little interaction: sùcķ my dìçk with your mother's lips & put the keyboard down & do something physical about it for that dumb bítćh in real life instead of replying to my comments. No more talk, get busy.

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