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    #21
    Originally posted by garfios

    Yes he did, but stop with the small narrative. He never fights anyone that have an advantage over him. He makes sure he is the one with advantage.
    At least he fights. Beterbiev and Bivol have baby nuts when it comes to facing each other.

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      #22
      Originally posted by garfios

      The issue wasn't the weight, was money. He offered the same pay and bivol counter with let's do it at 168, canelo say no, 175 under the same terms, bivol answered by saying you need to pay me more I won the first fight, actually he show more class than canelo by not whoring himself.
      It shows ******ity if you ask me. Instead of making millions against Canelo in a big PPV he would be favored to win? Bivol is now sitting around doing nothing without an opponent and earning $0.

      Dumb move.
      Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 10-06-2023, 01:48 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        At least he fights. Beterbiev and Bivol have baby nuts when it comes to facing each other.
        A least he fights? Bums, undersized boxers? What kind of boxing fan are you? You don't care paying $100 as long as your idol is in the ring, doesn't matter with whom, the less dangerous the better, that is why you support all his shenanigans. You would get more out of ****o.

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          #24
          Originally posted by garfios

          A least he fights? Bums, undersized boxers? What kind of boxing fan are you? You don't care paying $100 as long as your idol is in the ring, doesn't matter with whom, the less dangerous the better, that is why you support all his shenanigans. You would get more out of ****o.
          Canelo fought Bivol just last year.

          When have Beterbiev and Bivol ever fought each other during their entire team at 175? They need to grow a pair.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            It shows ******ity if you ask me. Instead of making millions against Canelo in a big PPV he would be favored to win? Bivol is now sitting around doing nothing without an opponent and earning $0.

            Dumb move.
            He wants his value, he knows a lot of more fans would buy the event, so he wants part of what he brings this time to the table. He took what was offered the first time, he already showed that he didn't fight for the money nor priced himself, the scenario is different, and he wants his worth. I see someone of character and that knows what he wants, not a sell out like charlo and others before him. I guess ginger would have to live with "what would what happened if he tried to avenge his defeat against bivol", I think he knows, he could have thrown a couple of millions and the fight could have happened. He not even picked up his rematch option, that's how willing he wanted to face bivol again.

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              #26
              Originally posted by garfios

              He wants his value, he knows a lot of more fans would buy the event, so he wants part of what he brings this time to the table. He took what was offered the first time, he already showed that he didn't fight for the money nor priced himself, the scenario is different, and he wants his worth. I see someone of character and that knows what he wants, not a sell out like charlo and others before him. I guess ginger would have to live with "what would what happened if he tried to avenge his defeat against bivol", I think he knows, he could have thrown a couple of millions and the fight could have happened. He not even picked up his rematch option, that's how willing he wanted to face bivol again.
              Right now his value without Canelo is very low. Like literally $0 since he isn’t fighting anyone.

              Even for the Zurdo fight he only got a guarantee of $500k.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                Oh ok. So when Canelo fought Bivol the first time it was only because he thought he was vulnerable. And when Canelo pursued a rematch with Bivol there’s something wrong with that too…because he insisted it be at the same weight as the first fight.

                There’s always some angle from people like you to shlt on Canelo no matter what he does. Yet I don’t see anywhere near the same energy for Bivol vs Beterbiev to fight just one time, let alone twice. The bias is obvious.
                How about respecting the guy who won the first fight? How about that?

                And Canelo aint afraid of losing to a much bigger man. He's afraid of losing his belts to a guy in HIS weight class.

                He wants the credit of going up to the bigger man's weight class, so if he loses, no harm no foul, but if Bivol beats him at 168, he loses all his belts and a little bit of his cache.

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